The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Orb (DoC)]

Why are the Dutch such big on conquest I wonder....

[St Jon]

Back to cultural victory, I've never done in civ4 yet. I see it a bit problematic because it's really "all or nothing" strategy. For cultural victory you have to turn off research and use the commerce for culture(from the middle ages). It means that you will fall behind in research. Now should others come to stop you ( and I think they should) with their more advanced tech the civ which goes for cultural victory will be at their mercy. Probably they will let the civ live but keeping them from ever getting enough culture. And then this civ would be really crippled.

I can see a way to make it work in a Diplo!

[mzprox]

What about making an agreement that we wont use the IG option to ban nukes?

One can always choose to defy the resolution.

that 5 extra unhappyness could be problematic.

[Robert]

What about making an agreement that we wont use the IG option to ban nukes?

One can always choose to defy the resolution.

[Robert]

All religious victory types are allowed. Personally I'm trying to go for the domination or conquest victory

[mzprox]

nukes should never be banned ... especialy rogue nations using terrorism nukes..

What about making an agreement that we wont use the IG option to ban nukes? We could still make treaties about banning them but we could still build our nuclear weapons in secret if we wish. It would be good for diplo.

Back to cultural victory, I've never done in civ4 yet. I see it a bit problematic because it's really "all or nothing" strategy. For cultural victory you have to turn off research and use the commerce for culture(from the middle ages). It means that you will fall behind in research. Now should others come to stop you ( and I think they should) with their more advanced tech the civ which goes for cultural victory will be at their mercy. Probably they will let the civ live but keeping them from ever getting enough culture. And then this civ would be really crippled.
Making a spaceship is always easier and it keeps you top on military (tech-wise)-but it's not that hard to sabotage the ss parts.

but lets try.. the game is not about winning (IG) anyway. I just really hope ppl wont lose intrest at end game as it happened BtP.

[St Jon]

I do think cultural victory is wimpy (tho dont really know what the word means ), but religious victory should be wimpy as well and it's too hard to gain true IG victory in diplogames so it's fine. I will personally nuke to ground every civ which has cultural victory in mind anyway (For god sake.. please dont ban nukes this time.. it's too boring without them )

Wimpy = Pathetic or Cowardly

BtP was the first time I have ever seen a Religious Victory attempted.

Diplomatic is no walk in the park but I'm not sure it would be possible in Diplo as you'd need a lot of Vassels or very bored people.

I like Cultural as in SP I was even defeated by my own Vassel! It's not hard to see it coming so you are going to face a lot of opposition.

Nukes should be allowed, I didn't realise they were banned, as if I faced defeat in a late game war I'd make damn sure that my enemy faced a lot of fall-out when he got home.

[Rasputin]

I do think cultural victory is wimpy (tho dont really know what the word means ), but religious victory should be wimpy as well and it's too hard to gain true IG victory in diplogames so it's fine. I will personally nuke to ground every civ which has cultural victory in mind anyway (For god sake.. please dont ban nukes this time.. it's too boring without them )

nukes should never be banned ... especialy rogue nations using terrorism nukes..

[Rasputin]

Cultural vicotryt is the coolest way of winning a diplo

space race i hate as it usualy means people never go to war as they are simply maddly rusing along the tech path and commerce path.

I never play a SP game with space race as an option to win by.

[mzprox]

I do think cultural victory is wimpy (tho dont really know what the word means ), but religious victory should be wimpy as well and it's too hard to gain true IG victory in diplogames so it's fine. I will personally nuke to ground every civ which has cultural victory in mind anyway (For god sake.. please dont ban nukes this time.. it's too boring without them )

[St Jon]

Just a quickie question as I cannot be bothered to trawl the Setup Thread. Obviously Domination/Conquest out as IG Victory but are we still allowed to go for Religious, Diplomatic and Cultural as well as Spaceship?

I know people regard Cultural as a wimpy type of Victory but if that's your target you need to plan for it at the very start. In SP, at high difficulty levels, it actually is a very hard ask but I haven't played enough MP to know how it pans out.

OK, I've given out my strategy but not my Civ so I hope I don't incur a fine!

[Black Knight 427]

I'm glad to see that the English are now also using the Persian term "Hut People"!
The Persian culture and language is already spreading across the earth!

[Persia (DoC)]

I'm glad to see that the English are now also using the Persian term "Hut People"!
The Persian culture and language is already spreading across the earth!

[mzprox]

I have a question (unrelated to this game)
Does anyone know why i get x+1 research towards my tech when my research is x? For higher cost tech I can get x+3 and I dont know where these extras coming from. I made test games and receiving this bonus there too, I just wana know where does it come from.

[Robert]

Thanks Jeroen!
I've included the link in the 'links' section of the thread-headers.