The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Orb (DoC)]

War is over can we get back to 8hr clock again?

[Black Knight 427]

And another one falls to Persia. How disapointing to see both Russia and Britannia fall without even putting up a real fight. Very impressed by Persias aggressive play. Wonder who will be next on their hit list.

[Orb (DoC)]

Fine by me if you go. I can move till I get out of in 4hrs work anyways.

[Persia (DoC)]

Britannia hasn't move yet and the turn timer ends within 5 hours.
If I won't move now I can't move at all anymore during this turn.
Since Britannia and me aren't physically at war with each other and we aren't within each other's view right now I hope everyone is ok if I move now. If not, I'll make a save before I move, Robert can then use that save to reload.

I'll continue to accept Britannia's first order in the turn order.

[St Jon]

Careful St Byzantine Jon, that Hairy Hog seems to like a challenge.

Who says I am a Byzantine? Just because I know the bullying Persians don't stand a chance against them is neither here nor there!

[Orb (DoC)]

Definitely wasn't criticising Hairy Hog. I've been there before myself - the whole clash between a responsibility to be measured, and a (IG perfectly reasonable) beligerance from the weaker party. I can fully see the 'if they won't accept a reasonable peace, then its their fault if their pain isn't measured', though of course what is a reasonable peace is always a matter of opinion. And I can't comment on that without giving away whether I know the facts about the mountains you are discussing, the relative sizes etc., which I am not going to.

Anyway, being plunged into a discussion of rules isn't what this game needs - hope I haven't precipitated that. But, I did think that Herelictus' comment which seemed to be on the logic of 'as long as you don't destroy their capital you can do as you want' needing some response. .

I have no problem accepting peace under the terms Persia wrote. I just refuse to call him master. If he wishes the war to be over all he need do is take that part out.

[The Priest]

Is this the Persian God-King?

[The Priest]

Definitely wasn't criticising Hairy Hog. I've been there before myself - the whole clash between a responsibility to be measured, and a (IG perfectly reasonable) beligerance from the weaker party. I can fully see the 'if they won't accept a reasonable peace, then its their fault if their pain isn't measured', though of course what is a reasonable peace is always a matter of opinion. And I can't comment on that without giving away whether I know the facts about the mountains you are discussing, the relative sizes etc., which I am not going to.

Anyway, being plunged into a discussion of rules isn't what this game needs - hope I haven't precipitated that. But, I did think that Herelictus' comment which seemed to be on the logic of 'as long as you don't destroy their capital you can do as you want' needing some response. .

[Orb (DoC)]

[QUOTE=Persia (DoC)
- Britannia acknowledges Persia's dominance and will call it 'master'
.[/QUOTE]

This I will never agree to!

[Persia (DoC)]

The Priest: No. That would be in clear breach of the 'measured war' concept as written into our rules, wouldn't it? An invasion, pillage, and then peace seems to me to be within the concept, but on ongoing campaign like that is clearly inflicting far more damange that the suggested 25%.

Well, for the record, the Britannians can end this war any moment by just only bowing their head. As long as they don't do that I guess I can continue my pillaging campaign.
This was is as measured as Britannia wants it to be.
The peace proposal is there!

- Britannia acknowledges Persia's dominance and will call it 'master'
- Britannia can settle east of the mountains, Persia west (Brittannia's suggestion)
- Persia will protect Britannia, Britannia will fight with Persia, if Persia asks for help.
- Britannia can't go to war without Persia's accord

It's up to them to accept it or not.

[Robert]

Next turn: 10 hours (4,5h on the clock now, civstats is down so I thought I'd share it with you guys )

[Russia (DoC)]

well, St. Petersburg was more than 25%, but with a settler it becomes manageable. Of course the site was the intended location for my economic capital and I took a big hit in BNP losing it. But Russia endures!

[The Priest]

I'm confused can't Persia just pillage all the improvements and kill every unit built in the city beyond the last one?

No. That would be in clear breach of the 'measured war' concept as written into our rules, wouldn't it? An invasion, pillage, and then peace seems to me to be within the concept, but on ongoing campaign like that is clearly inflicting far more damange that the suggested 25%.

So far though it stikes me that its been a great diplo early war.

Have fun with the Byzantines though as I don't believe you'll win

Careful St Byzantine Jon, that Hairy Hog seems to like a challenge.

[St Jon]

That would be a very nasty thing to do to Russia. Have fun with the Byzantines though as I don't believe you'll win unless someone else joins the party.

[Persia (DoC)]

Yes, I can and I will.