Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [OOC Chat Thread]

[Pitboss Greece]

Pitboss Vikings:
for capo, that desert land bridge, whilst not settled is japanese land. obviously anyonwe else can tryto take it from them by force, but their friends would help them fight for it.

The land bridge is not Japanese anymore. Japan has abandoned it's claim on it long ago. Since the land was given to Japan by Sparta, it is being owned by Sparta again.

Soon Sparta will settle new cities on the land bridge. Settlers are on their way already. We cannot give the land bridge to the barbarians.

Below you will find the statement Japan made in the past regarding their abandoning of the land bridge.

Alcetas, King of Sparta

General Hanzo Hattori of Japan:
Japan was not
going to settle the mainland any longer. Wanting to
settle the mainland has cost the lives of two great
emperors and thousands of innocent people. His first
priorities were Japan and the Barbarian Island.

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[The Capo]

Look, I was never trying to make this issue into a large issue, I was just explaining to Japan that when someone writes something as a story, especially when it is something that occurs privately that not even the Emperor of the home country would know about you should respect that. If for instance Piercia wrote a story that invovled a private conversation between two of their chracters and during that conversation something negative was said about Korea I would not take it into consideration because I wouldn't know that that conversation occured.

Furthermore the very idea that you have spies travelling around a desert is completely ludicrous. If you need any explanation as to why that is ludicrous then it is no wonder you think what you did was a good thing.

And the defense "well we have spies in your camp" is equally stupid because you don't have contact with me, so if you KNEW my men were there you WOULD have contact with me, thus you would be able to send these "spies." But since you don't have contact with me, it means you don't know where they are, and if you don't know where they are you can't send spies.

@Ras; the fact that Koreans and Japanese "look alike" is ridiculous, I won't even entertain how moronic that statement was by responding to it other than calling it ridiculous.

Back at Japan; I wasn't trying to insult you when I made that OOC post in the Story forum, I was just trying to help you grasp diplogame etiquette, that's all. I'm sorry if it came out as condescending, but its important that certain liscence be given to people and you have to realize the difference between reading something and being aware that it happened (in an IC sense).

The next thing I'll say is this; if you are going to get upset over something as stupid as that, its entirely your prerogative. But I will give you this advice; you should choose your political/diplomatic battles wisely. Wasting time and straining a relationship over something so mundane and unimportant is not wise.

EDIT: On top of all that Greece is right after all. Also the "cowering" General Jumong was referring to were actual in-game events (ie the Oldonian complaints over their constant barbarian wars and Japan "pulling out" of the area due to barbarians destroying their camp. So if anything you should be happy I am integrating with your stories)

[Pitboss Japan]

very true but Itoku has different plans. Hanzo is only a general not a leader.

[Pitboss Japan]

Anyways Lets not make this bigger then it has gotten. For the record I will be resettling the mainland just not this moment.

[Pitboss Korea]

Has anybody downloaded and played the mod yet?

[Pitboss Japan]

I have been downloading it for an hour and only have gotten 3% but eventually it will download and i will let you know how it is.

[Pitboss Persia]

I have tried it.

I have noticed one little problem : if you launch the main menu in a different language, there are no writings at all, so you have to quit, set the language to english without having the mod loaded, and then reload the game. It's not a big problem, but you may wish to fix it (even if you put an english menu in for every language, for means of simplicity).

I was a bit puzzled by the graphic changes. It's confusing to have red english borders, but white japanese ones. It's just a detail, but hey ^^.

The units graphics are good, but swords,axes, spears and heavy footmen sometimes look all the same (especially for the viking spears/swords/axes, and the ottoman heavy footmen/axes/swords).

The religions seem to work fine, the sound however, shouldn't be playing for missionaries on build (get's on your nerves when most of your cities are building temples and monastrys and you capital is spamming missionaries).

As for the new civ's... well, the Iroquois UB looks really lame to me.

I have not tested inquisitors and spies yet, and I've stopped my current game because of a crash (that had nothing to do with the mod), but i'll keep you informed about my testplaying.

Looks like an awsome mod.

PS: You could have found a new title music for the mod...

[Pitboss Japan]

Do you kno if it starts off as a mod or is it already loaded when you startt?

[The Capo]

Oh **** yeah I forgot, its only in English. I totally forgot to ask some people to help me with translations, primarily French, German and Italian. I can handle Spanish (but it will be Mexican Spanish, not European).

As for the units; yeah some of them do look similar (what he means by that is WITHIN a country, i.e. their uniforms, there are not real similarities between different countries, maybe a couple) but honestly I don't agree that its a problem.

The music, yeah I could have changed the title music but I didn't think it was important. I'll look into that.

I don't get your meaning based on the missionaries though. Does it really play their religion's sound when you build them? I didn't even notice that.

And you probably should have PMed me the thing about the English text, considering you are using your pitboss name... kinda slims down the possibilities of your identity you know?

[The Capo]

A few more responses to this...

Originally posted by Pitboss Persia
I was a bit puzzled by the graphic changes. It's confusing to have red english borders, but white japanese ones. It's just a detail, but hey ^^.

I just liked those flags better, thats why they changed their colors.

The units graphics are good, but swords,axes, spears and heavy footmen sometimes look all the same (especially for the viking spears/swords/axes, and the ottoman heavy footmen/axes/swords).

Who did you play as? This isn't true for everyone, and for the most part those are just uniform similarities, which some people may actually prefer, but its different for each country.

The religions seem to work fine, the sound however, shouldn't be playing for missionaries on build (get's on your nerves when most of your cities are building temples and monastrys and you capital is spamming missionaries).

As for the new civ's... well, the Iroquois UB looks really lame to me.

Well its a mud, clay, and thatch longhouse. There isn't really much I could add to it.

I have not tested inquisitors and spies yet, and I've stopped my current game because of a crash (that had nothing to do with the mod), but i'll keep you informed about my testplaying.

Looks like an awsome mod.

PS: You could have found a new title music for the mod...

Thanks again, if you have any suggestions for the music that would be helpful, although I don't consider it a huge problem, these are simple things that can be changed with a patch.

[Pitboss Persia]

You asked for testing, so changing the language of the game seemed a good start to search for problems with the mod.

However, I don't care THAT much about my anon, so that's no problem for me.

As for the longhouse, i didn't refer to the graphics, but to the advantage compared to a usual courthouse... 10% is quite poor.

The unit graphics are not a real issue, I was just commenting.

And yes, i am quite sure about having noticed that the religion sound is played when the missionaries are built.

I know there is nothing really critical, i'm just pointing at things you may wish to improve if you are a perfectionist.

Good Job !

[The Capo]

Alright, good stuff.

Alright I can bump the longhouse up a bit.

Yeah the unit graphics are going to be a bit tough to edit anyway, I personally thought they were great but to each his own. I didn't make them, I just work with what I can get.

But please, keep the suggestions coming. But they should probably be in the Possible Diplogame Mod thread.

[Pitboss Vikings]

used ot have fun at least in this OOC thread but it died too.

[Pitboss Japan]

What happened to kill the fun?

[Pitboss Vikings]

everyone stopped chatting