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  • #16
    double post. sorry
    Last edited by ben04; September 23, 2008, 05:11.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Priest
      Stonehenge - yes a mistake, though the logic behidn it was that it gave totem poles in each city, which is a real advantage - well it would have been if I hadn't been so crushed by the barbs that I had been able to build some more.
      It wouldn't have been because of 2 reasons:
      • 1 Stonehenge = 120 hammers = 4*totem pole
        This means you would need at least 5 cities to get an advantage. Also remember, that those 120 hammers are early hammers and therefore worth a lot more than the 5*30 hammers that you would otherwise have spent.
      • Experience against barbs is caped at 10 points. Your units will be mass murdering barbs anyway so will easily reach them without a totem pole. One promotion out of the box is good to make sure that they win their first battle and is provided by barracks*, more is nearly useless.


      *As dog soldiers are certainly available to you barracks are better then totem poles for this.

      A general rule of thumb: Building Stonehenge is nearly always a bad idea.


      Perhaps it would be a good idea to research alphabet. The spies can scout the area without risking to be killed and could make contact and thus allow tech trade.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ben04
        Also there were mainly archers and not warriors. I don't know why though. Good that I chose Mansa because I don't know how otherwise I would have defended against stacks of around 4 archers.
        The axemen and spearmen came out against me pretty early.

        Playing Sitting Bull, even in regular games I usually don't research hunting/archery until much later than normal. I go straight for mining->BW and Build/chop/slave enough Dog Soldiers to fight off the barbs.

        MAke sure you build on hills early on.
        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Theben

          Playing Sitting Bull, even in regular games, I usually don't research hunting/archery until much later than normal. I go straight for mining->BW and Build/chop/slave enough Dog Soldiers to fight off the barbs.

          Make sure you build on hills early on.
          Hills advice is good. As archers get hills defense bonuses, I go for Archery much earlier with the NA civ as well as Mali due to the archer double advantage (totem pole plus protective on top of barracks) for NA and the Mali skirmisher (a 4-point resourceless unit). Note that Bronze Working is either my first or second tech for every civ depending on if the civ starts with Mining, only rarely the third, if a coastal start reveals multiple water resources and the civ does not have Fishing. So Archery, even early, will end up as the fourth or fifth tech.
          No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
          "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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          • #20
            I was playing the other night and built the internet (basically to keep the AI from it) And got the standard religious techs that I ignore but had to laugh when it gave me archery and realized that since I had elephants I never went for horse archers, crossbowman or longbowman.
            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #21
              Never Mind! Misread the above.
              No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
              "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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