I don't know what to do...

[Krill]

CR3/Barrage tanks are awesome as well, if you have set up the HE city to pump out highly promoted units. They get odds on everything up to rifles IIRC, and the collateral damage lets marines kill the majority of the units after a few tank attacks

[Ming]

Yeah, you will lose a few tanks if they have some massive promoted rifles on hill cities, but CRS tanks really do the job. The Col damage just makes it really easy for your marines to clean up.

[MoonWolf]

That's why I bring fighters 9-12 of them will soften up the thoughest defenders. And you don't have to re-supply with the tanks you loose. If you loose a plane, it's a lot easier to get a new one to your carrier than a tank to your transport. I normally give my marines first strikes + pinch (or combat + pinch) and they take down most defenders.

[Theben]

Update to those who care. Not that anyone posted anything in the last 24 hours, so you shouldn't complain if it's not to your liking.

I decided to take out the Mongols 1st. They were just too annoying. He had about 12 cities, took 1/2 on the 1st 2 turns. It took about another 20 to ferry my troops to the rest of his cities. The last one was a fairly useless arctic island city with a French crossbowman in it. I burned the city and then tidied up (pillaged the ruins and road), loaded up my infantry and left. The next time I came by he was gone. Maybe he froze to death.

The turn after the Mongols vanished from the face of the planet, Cyrus decides to 'attack' me. He also split off his foreign settlements into a vassal (Rome) and since I played with 18 civs, they took the 'Mongol' slot and I had unrest in my new conquests (official 3.13, no Bhuric's). Of course since the last Mongol city was only a few tiles away from the Persian border- he had previously conquered most of Mongolia- I sent my fleet and razed one of his cities immediately. Long story short I overran both Persia and then Rome, razing a few and keeping ones I liked. Rome was completely razed, down to the last cottage.

Then Burger King came along and settled on my new continent. Since he hates my guts already I'm gearing up for a new fight. He's got 2 vassals of his own, both fairly large. It should be bloody. Although since I now have 36 destroyers and about 15 turns until tanks, it'll be mostly his I'm sure.

As for the Ethiopians, they've decided to expand elsewhere, mainly in Russia. The large armies that crushed the Egyptians so long ago have long since abandoned the continent and few forces remain. He's still pleased with me, but the Dutch and French are also friendly and of course I still have my own vassals. Plus he keeps bugging me with spies.

No pics yet. Maybe tommorrow.

As an aside, huge marathon games take bloody forever. It doesn't help that I work all the time.

[Jaybe]

Ah, marathon games.
Make your games a novel (or novel series), not a short story. The difference between a few hours for a game, or a few weeks.

[Krill]

Difference between something that is a hobby and an obsession.

[Diadem]

Does noone here ROLEPLAY their games? Everybody seems to suggest declaring on the ethiopians. Which may strategically be the best option. But if they are good friends, does noone feel such a thing would be wrong?

Ah well, neither do I. I'm an evil backstabbing bastard. I'm just surprised everybody else is as well

[couerdelion]

Originally posted by Theben
And as for NAtionalism, I think I'd rather have Vassalage. Police State/Vassalage/Caste System/State Prop/Theocracy.

Having recently finished a game with Isabelle by conquering the continent of Wang Kong and Mao (both protective), I'd support the call to nationalism. With spiritual, you can always switch back to Vassalage while you're waiting for the Draft unhappiness to wear off before churning out another small army.

Draft units are VERY cheap

[Ming]

Originally posted by Diadem
Does noone here ROLEPLAY their games? Everybody seems to suggest declaring on the ethiopians. Which may strategically be the best option. But if they are good friends, does noone feel such a thing would be wrong?

Ah well, neither do I. I'm an evil backstabbing bastard. I'm just surprised everybody else is as well

I used to feel bad backstabbing my dear friends. Especially after working so hard to get them that way.

But after watching dear good friends backstab me, I no longer care. When you are plus 15 or more, and they attack you... it kind of shows what the AI thinks about relationships

Now I use relations to my advantage. I'll take a good buddy, get him to join me in a war with some moron, and then wait until all of his troops are out of position.
Then I will gut him like a fish... with no guilt at all

[Theben]

Originally posted by Jaybe
Make your games a novel (or novel series), not a short story. The difference between a few hours for a game, or a few weeks.

If you're expecting winding eloquent prose at 2 am, well... let's just say you shouldn't hold your breath.

Don't worry. I'll smite those spying bastards soon enough, once I get marines and tanks.

[Theben]

Originally posted by couerdelion

Having recently finished a game with Isabelle by conquering the continent of Wang Kong and Mao (both protective), I'd support the call to nationalism. With spiritual, you can always switch back to Vassalage while you're waiting for the Draft unhappiness to wear off before churning out another small army.

Draft units are VERY cheap

I suppose I can try it. I did build Globe Theater after all, as well as teh JEBUS Statue.

[Garth Vader]

Originally posted by Ming


I used to feel bad backstabbing my dear friends. Especially after working so hard to get them that way.

I still do. I am not saying I don't do it If I am going for domination sometimes friends have to go too.

[Lord Avalon]

Originally posted by Diadem
Does noone here ROLEPLAY their games? Everybody seems to suggest declaring on the ethiopians. Which may strategically be the best option. But if they are good friends, does noone feel such a thing would be wrong?

Ah well, neither do I. I'm an evil backstabbing bastard. I'm just surprised everybody else is as well

The Walrus and The Carpenter

By Lewis Carroll
(from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, 1872)

The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all his might:
He did his very best to make
The billows smooth and bright--
And this was odd, because it was
The middle of the night.

The moon was shining sulkily,
Because she thought the sun
Had got no business to be there
After the day was done--
"It's very rude of him," she said,
"To come and spoil the fun!"

The sea was wet as wet could be,
The sands were dry as dry.
You could not see a cloud, because
No cloud was in the sky:
No birds were flying overhead--
There were no birds to fly.

The Walrus and the Carpenter
Were walking close at hand;
They wept like anything to see
Such quantities of sand:
"If this were only cleared away,"
They said, "it would be grand!"

"If seven maids with seven mops
Swept it for half a year.
Do you suppose," the Walrus said,
"That they could get it clear?"
"I doubt it," said the Carpenter,
And shed a bitter tear.

"O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
The Walrus did beseech.
"A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each."

The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head--
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.

But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat--
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn't any feet.

Four other Oysters followed them,
And yet another four;
And thick and fast they came at last,
And more, and more, and more--
All hopping through the frothy waves,
And scrambling to the shore.

The Walrus and the Carpenter
Walked on a mile or so,
And then they rested on a rock
Conveniently low:
And all the little Oysters stood
And waited in a row.

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."

"But wait a bit," the Oysters cried,
"Before we have our chat;
For some of us are out of breath,
And all of us are fat!"
"No hurry!" said the Carpenter.
They thanked him much for that.

"A loaf of bread," the Walrus said,
"Is what we chiefly need:
Pepper and vinegar besides
Are very good indeed--
Now if you're ready, Oysters dear,
We can begin to feed."

"But not on us!" the Oysters cried,
Turning a little blue.
"After such kindness, that would be
A dismal thing to do!"
"The night is fine," the Walrus said.
"Do you admire the view?

"It was so kind of you to come!
And you are very nice!"
The Carpenter said nothing but
"Cut us another slice:
I wish you were not quite so deaf--
I've had to ask you twice!"

"It seems a shame," the Walrus said,
"To play them such a trick,
After we've brought them out so far,
And made them trot so quick!"
The Carpenter said nothing but
"The butter's spread too thick!"

"I weep for you," the Walrus said:
"I deeply sympathize."
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.

"O Oysters," said the Carpenter,
"You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none--
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.

[Theben]

Ok, some pics.
What's left of Persia in 1759. To the west is what used to be Mongolia, securely in my possession.



To the north, highlighting my CR INF.

[Theben]

Okay, thread doesn't look broken- to me anyway. Lemme know if it needs adjusting.

New Rome:



A former barb city conquered by the Egyptians. It revolted for a couple turns. I was waiting to see if it would flip to the barbarians(!!). Never did though.