I don't know what to do...

[Theben]

in terms of how to finish this game. I have a decent techlead for the moment, and probably could keep it, and go for the spaceship victory.

OTOH, I have infantry and cavalry while no opponent has better than muskets and cuirssawhatevers. Most of their armies are still longbows/macemen.

I share my continent with the Ethiopians, and while I probably could wipe him out quickly, and he's a candidate to give me trouble down the line, we share the same religion and he's one of my best 'allies'. Other nations have been particularly annoying with their constant "help me!" whining. The Mongols in particular, since I'm now -14 in the 'refused to help in wartime!' dept. They are not far away, but they are scattered across several islands.

Some other irritating nations are far away, but don't even have gunpowder yet. I figure I could raze their civ off the face of the planet with little effort, once I get there.

Under any circumstance I can't see any of them being dumb enough to attack me. Not only am I 1000 points ahead of my nearest rival, I have 3 other civs (Portugual, US, and Aztecs) under my iron heel (well I'm running Pacifism, so it's more like a velvet slipper). I've plenty of time (1600's in Marathon), Monarch lvl agress AI.

Thoughts?

[Tuberski]

Go after whoever has the best units.

ACK!

[Theben]

That would be the Ethiopians, and that unit is their damn Oromo Warrior. On defense in a city, it could give my infantry trouble.

[Zero]

1.if you dont have a huge army as of now(if ur running pacifism i guess not),
2. and you have enough territory (since your in the lead im guessing you do have enough)

then I would just sit back and work on your peace victory instead. Just make sure you have decent defense so that you dont get attacked and keep ethiopians close so that AIs will be less likely to declare war on you.

if u cant get close with ethiopians you probably should attack him though.

[Colm]

Yes, best is to kill off the Ethiopeans. If you leave them alone too much, and they get close to your borders, they will attack without warning. And even if you're ahead in tech, when they come with a stack of 3 dozen units, your cities will fall one by one.
So either attack, or make a massive defense, cause they will come.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Theben
The Mongols in particular, since I'm now -14 in the 'refused to help in wartime!' dept.

It sounds to me like it's just a matter of time before they declare on you. Mongols aren't the most peaceful people after all. I'd say a preemptive strike would be in order.

[Hauptman]

Infantry vs macemen?

Endgame, bump up the level, and start a new one.. :P

Usually I have to work hard to get Infantry and tanks while the AIs have riflemen.

But if you must continue... Nationalism. Just start crankin those infantry and conquer the world. Dont stop til the fat lady sings and that special man plants his flag and turns the world red. You MUST take advantage of that unit discrepancy!

[Theben]

Well, infantry vs. musketmen. No one else has upgraded their forces wholesale.

And really the only reason to keep playing is to see the victory movie. I've played quite a few games, but finished only a handful. All of the ones I won were cultural (which is why I turned it off this time).

if you dont have a huge army as of now(if ur running pacifism i guess not)

actually there's 24 cavalry and 4 cannon on the border, plus about 30 INF guarding my cities. Another 25 INF/5-9 CAV in distant lands (Persia, I took his capital+3 other cities 'cuz he was teching hard and it has 5 settled GG).

What I'd really like to do is gather my remaining CR INF into one force. They all were macemen/dog soldiers before and have CR II(I) and free Cover (tower shields), and use them to ravage the world.

[Theben]

And as for NAtionalism, I think I'd rather have Vassalage. Police State/Vassalage/Caste System/State Prop/Theocracy.

[Hauptman]

Originally posted by Theben
And as for NAtionalism, I think I'd rather have Vassalage. Police State/Vassalage/Caste System/State Prop/Theocracy.

Universale sufferage, nationalism. Two options available for instant units!

Usually by this stage of the game, My military is quite potent and rarely require fast buildups. The few times I have needed it nationalism is a nice trick.

[Zero]

hmm if u have to much military idling around then... put them to work!

I'd kill the ethiopians first.

[Seedle]

This thread needs screenshots/saves. That being said, I guess wipe out Ethiopia (Flanking2 Cavalry don't even notice Oromos)(and Infantry really, really don't notice Oromos. They can have all the defense they want, Infantry has an 11 point base power lead and +25% auto bonus. You do have cityraider3 maces to upgrade/already upgraded to Infantry right?) and go for Spaceship. If you are that far ahead, it will be less time consuming to keep enough of a military to keep the other AIs away (and they're on other continents, so it won't be hard.) and otherwise build research/space parts than to build ships, build massive stacks, ship the stacks, etc. Inter-continental wars can add hours to a game (especially on Marathon) though flight and airlifting helps.

[Theben]

Sorry, no decent screenshot/saves available. Although I have decided my cutthroat ambitions need tuning up. So military it is, prolly Ethiopia/Egypt (his vassal) 1st, then Mongols, then most likely Persia.

[MoonWolf]

Do it the Viking way in modern style! Build up a naval task force that consist of destroyers, battleships, 3-4 carriers with fighters and some transports with marines. Do a world trip and take out coastal cities. This can be a way to have some guerrila-fun if you want to head for a "peaceful" victory like the spaceship.

[Ming]

Yeah... that's always a fun thing to do when you are working on some other form of victory. You just raze all the costal cities, lossing only a few units in the process.

This limits other civs access to the sea, takes out many of their good cities, and puts them on a war footing, detracting them from other activities.

Plus, it's a ton of fun