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    I read about the queshua rush strat here, so i tested this with washington and i have to say that i actually am amazed... i managed to wipe out my two clothest neighbours with about 10 city-pillager promoted queshuas (1 healer of course) and took their capitals, getting the holy city of hindouism that way, and a worker in each city... so i had a huge territory to colonize and upkeeps that made me panic

    Result ? I made cottages ASAP on almost each tile of my cities, only having cuzco building the great lighthouse, the others all building queshuas, workers and settlers. About 1800 BC i had 10 cities, running at 10% science ratio to get the writhing tech... at an amazing speed!

    Once the libraries were built (by chopping of the forest tiles), and the cottages were growing, i had such a booming economy, that i actually researched feudalism in 5 turns, while others were researching mathematics in 35 turns! (had enough intel to see their researches).

    I stopped playing when i got nationalism while others were at feudalism. I had 24 cities and the tripple of the score of the second in score. True, i was not able to colonize the new world as quickly as usual (2 centuries later to usual) but i didn't even need to, because my terrytory was so huge, it prevented others from spreading out, and i still had an entire jungle to colonize on the old world.

    I am truely amazed. I ran this test on noble difficulty and i was very close to an economical disaster (running at 0% science and -3 /turn for a few turns). Is this viable on higher difficulty levels ? And if it is, is this beatable in any way ?

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    The choose leaders (You being Washington of the Incans) is an advanced option precisely because some leader /civ combos are overpowered and others are underpowered.

    Try them in a non choose leaders game before declaring a civ overpowered.

    In this partiular game, you had extra synergy during your queshua rush from Washington's charisimatic traight (faster unit promotion)
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    • #3
      Does this tactic work on higher levels? This tactic makes higher levels easier!

      I played one of my usual Monarch games with a Cuecha rush, took out 2 civs, and had the same problem you did, researching assembly line when everyone else was researching education.

      So restarted at emporer (if you've read my other posts, mainly "getting over the emporer hump" you'd know I was having trouble) Took out 2 civs (1 was protective) and cruised to an easy domination win without much expansion after the fact (vassalized a few and allied with one) My game winning war, was as usual, my tanks and bombers killing thier riflemen.

      So when I get a few more games in at emporer (all I am playing now! YAY!) I'll try an Immortal Huyana game.
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      The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?...So with that said: if you can not read my post because of spelling, then who is really the stupid one?...

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      • #4
        I do believe that this topic was discussed thoroughly already and it was agreed that the Inca are indeed a real powerhouse, even more so on higher difficulty levels.

        Original topic is here and I don't think another topic so close to the original should be opened even though I'm no moderator.
        "The state is nothing but an instrument of oppression of one class by another--no less so in a democratic republic than in a monarchy."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fleme
          I do believe that this topic was discussed thoroughly already and it was agreed that the Inca are indeed a real powerhouse, even more so on higher difficulty levels.

          Original topic is here and I don't think another topic so close to the original should be opened even though I'm no moderator.
          True, thanks, dind't find that topic when i searched for it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fleme
            I do believe that this topic was discussed thoroughly already and it was agreed that the Inca are indeed a real powerhouse, even more so on higher difficulty levels.

            Original topic is here and I don't think another topic so close to the original should be opened even though I'm no moderator.
            True. But if you open up an old thread, someone is sure to get upset and accuse you of thread necromancy.
            And indeed there will be time To wonder, "Do I dare?" and, "Do I dare?". t s eliot

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Supr49er


              True. But if you open up an old thread, someone is sure to get upset and accuse you of thread necromancy.


              PS: this is not flooding at all.

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              • #8
                I haven't tried Incas on BtS, but I believe that on huge maps (which are more realistic) too fast expansion at the beginning tends to strike your economy really hard... also, on these maps most civs will get to the bronze level before you can get them with your quetchuas...

                By the way; I won on the Immortal level in Warlords, playing the Persians; they can unleash a horrible power with their Immortals (and I'd prefer that to the Incas); but still, you need to watch your ecomony closely and pray the ones you can conquer at a given time are rich...

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                • #9
                  I guess your not playing marathon then, that gives you plenty of time to build up a force and find the enemies.
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                  The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?...So with that said: if you can not read my post because of spelling, then who is really the stupid one?...

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                  • #10
                    The higher the level, the faster you must get rid your opponents, they will outbuild you eventually with their bonuses even if they build poorly.

                    The hardest games for me are the higher difficulties with late developing nations, like the Americans.

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