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  • #16
    No problem! (I wonder if mouse hover shows the 8ep?)

    Wodan

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    • #17
      Not when I tried it.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #18
        Hmm, I just tried it myself and it does indeed show the 8ep. Are you using Bhruic's?

        Wodan

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        • #19
          no he's not. thats what bruic fixed..

          PS buero... beuroh.... beauroe.... yeh your right, its spelled whatsit
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          • #20
            Does the Great Wall give ESP points? I've noticed after building it, I usually can see what 1 or 2 of my previously encountered neighbors are researching.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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            • #21
              Bureau
              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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              • #22
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                The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?...So with that said: if you can not read my post because of spelling, then who is really the stupid one?...

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                • #23
                  Is there any solid, detailed documentation on the way BtS espionage works? There are some aspects that I just can't find any info on and it's getting aggravating.

                  I'm trying to get my head around the determining factor(s) on whether/when certain actions are available (as in on the list of actions, not 'when you've got the points'), ie: At what point can my spy influence a rival's culture? Is it based on reaching a certain ratio of their culture to mine? Distance from my border? Amount of time my spy is on station? Phase of the moon? All I know is that it's not an available action - until suddenly it is. Why can I take action X against City 1 but not City 2?

                  Closely related: What determines the cost to sabotage production aside from the usual spy time-on-station, Esp points, etc.? As a specific example: I'm building Versailles and discover a rival is doing the same and is further along than I. So I load up some spies and send them to the rival's city to interfere with his production. I've a 69% modifier, high ratio and a couple of thousand E-pts built up. A turn after the spies' arrival, I go to execute the sabotage and find that the E-pt cost is *5386*. HUH? I check the other cities and their costs for sabotage range from 50 to 800. So why is this act so much more expensive? Logically I can infer that it's because I'm trying to screw up a Wonder but where is it documented that doing so is so vastly more expensive? Or what the multiplier is for a Wonder vs a buliding?

                  All in all, I think Espionage is seriously under-utilized by humans in large part because it's documentation is so pathetic. I know that the AI's use of it has been a serious pain in the posterior!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MrAnon
                    All in all, I think Espionage is seriously under-utilized by humans in large part because it's documentation is so pathetic. I know that the AI's use of it has been a serious pain in the posterior!
                    Seconded.
                    The undeserving maintain power by promoting hysteria.

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