Beyond the Sword Fact Sheet

[Guynemer]

Read the IGN preview, makes more sense now.

One thing I don't understand:

Vultures get a 25% reduction against melee units: is that overall (6 to 4.5), or just a 25% reduction from the usual 50% bonus, for a 25% bonus (6 to 7.5)?

[Solver]

They mean that Vultures gain +25% vs. Melee. Their way of writing about coefficients is strange sometimes.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by couerdelion


Weren't they just domesticated Mongols?

No

[Guynemer]

So, summary:

Dog Soldier: 8 vs. melee, 4 vs. archers and mounted
Vulture: 7.5 vs. melee, 6 vs. archers and mounted
Axeman: 7.5 vs. melee, 5 vs. archers and mounted

Dog Soldiers got screwed.

[Locutus]

The Native Americans have a stong UB & traits though and great synergy, it all balances each other out...

[Solver]

The Protective trait + Totem Pole makes them the biggest pain in the butt to attack of all civs. Barracks + Totem Pole = 5 XP for Archery units. With Protective, that means they'll produce City Garrison III + Drill I archery units without even needing to run Theocracy or Vassalage.

[dregor]

I just hate UBs based on the Monument.. obsoletes so fast

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Guynemer
De Gaulle? Fair enough. Is he the most modern leader in the game, along with Josef and Winston?

Er, he was contemporary with Roosevelt too.

[Solver]

He is the most modern one if you look at death years.

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Solver
He is the most modern one if you look at death years.

Yeah, he made it all the way to 1970 if I remember correctly.
FDR didn't make it past 1945, Stalin bit it in the 50s, and Churchill croaked in the 60s.

[silliness]
That being said, Gilgamesh is the most modern leader. Two-thirds god and only one-third man, after all.
I'm betting he got back that flower of eternal life from that evil snake somehow.

He's now masquerading as the rapper Gig-L Smash.

[/end silliness]

[Will9]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Er, he was contemporary with Roosevelt too.

Don't forget Gandhi.

[Kuciwalker]

I just realized: no Hebrews

@ Firaxis for including the HRE and not the Hebrews

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I just realized: no Hebrews

@ Firaxis for including the HRE and not the Hebrews

I'm working on organizing a mod to put them in. And I mean hopefully a non-sucky mod.

[Henrik]

Mayan Unique Building: Ball Court (Colosseum), grants +2 happiness.

Somewhat macabre choice methinks...

I like most new civs though, HRE excepted (well I WILL like seeing them appear but having HRE paralel to France and Germany will seem wierd). Having rome and byzantium would also be wierd but you could tell yourself Rome means the western empire (still wierd though as the game is supposed to be about civilizations but that line was crossed a long time ago)...

[Xan9BHAAL]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Er, he was contemporary with Roosevelt too.

Also don't forget about big boss Mao
He actually made it to 1976: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Tse_Tung

I didnt see the Easter Island heads in the Preview from IGN but else pretty extensive. I also hope they will add alittle about the random events next.