CIV burnout

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[Alexander I]

Originally posted by AAHZ
computer cheating and warmongering are just a couple of the reasons i really dont play civ much anymore. i am struggling so much on prince level right now... and THAT is the major killer that has me put the game down. i should not be doing this poorly on prince level, and early on warmongering every game just dosent appeal to me as the way to win... EVERY TIME. in fact thats the ONLY way ive ever beat prince level is to wipe them out before they get too powerful. im just quite frankly tired of doing that...

And Warlord difficulty is too easy?

[Solver]

I know that good players are able to beat difficulties as high as Monarch without fighting. Prince is surely beatable peacefully. In fact, the good thing about Civ4 is that you really don't have to do the same thing to win .

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Solver
I know that good players are able to beat difficulties as high as Monarch without fighting. Prince is surely beatable peacefully. In fact, the good thing about Civ4 is that you really don't have to do the same thing to win .

Though I still think Montezuma, Tokugawa, and Isabella are way too aggressive. How does one follow the peaceful path when they declare war irrationally? I always have an army on hand just in case.

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[Solver]

Hey, I'm not a great player myself. I am fairly comfortable at Prince, but that's with standard Civ4, not Blake's AI. But believe me, it's unfair to say that Civ4 only has one right way of doing things. It may be partially true for extreme difficulties (like Immortal or Deity), where it's my understanding you have to do some things, like early warfare, but those high levels are for a very small minority of players anyway.

From experience, I've won all sort of games on Prince. I've won games without warfare, where I stay on good terms with everyone, I've won games where I manage to leave everyone far behind in tech, I've won through Domination by massive warmongering. So it's quite possible .

[jbp26]

an easy way to get better is post a series of screenshots and detail your early game. others will tell you how to improve.

if prince is too much of a challenge and noble is too easy, try playing a more difficult noble game, ie, raging barbarians, aggressive civs, non-ideal starting locations, and so on. apolyton university courses/tournaments, where everyone starts at the same location in the same map, is great for learning how to improve your game, because you get to see how all these different approachs work. maybe post one of those.

[MJW]

Originally posted by Solver
Hey, I'm not a great player myself. I am fairly comfortable at Prince, but that's with standard Civ4, not Blake's AI. But believe me, it's unfair to say that Civ4 only has one right way of doing things. It may be partially true for extreme difficulties (like Immortal or Deity), where it's my understanding you have to do some things, like early warfare, but those high levels are for a very small minority of players anyway.

From experience, I've won all sort of games on Prince. I've won games without warfare, where I stay on good terms with everyone, I've won games where I manage to leave everyone far behind in tech, I've won through Domination by massive warmongering. So it's quite possible .

There is many good ways to play a game of Civ4. There are very few best ways. The early rush is broken. By the time it is not possible you have no way to stop the AI and you have to settle for a cultual win. When it is possible it is the only viable idea beacause of the way the scoring system works and its win condtion comes much faster than any other.

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[Alexander I]

Originally posted by AAHZ

NO... i WILL defeat prince... but thanks for the advise. I shall NOT fold and cower from that level. This has actually gotton to be a bit of a personal GRUDGE for me... As mentioned it IS possible to defeat it without war... and i shall FIND that way...

Just don't get obsessed with beating Deity difficulty level. That would just be silly...

[jbp26]

Originally posted by AAHZ
a great idea, and one i used to implement... BEFORE, when i was a GOOD player. AU is a good place for this, yet its attendence so far has been... QUITE dissapointing. I will post screenshots of my games soon, either on THIS thread or at AU... if nothing else to get a thread there going again.

the last time someone posted a game there was quite a few reports posted. i think if you post something you'd be surprised how many responses you get. id say post a prince level game starting with your favorite civ, and see how everyone else beats it.

[eris]

Originally posted by AAHZ

NO... i WILL defeat prince... but thanks for the advise. I shall NOT fold and cower from that level. This has actually gotton to be a bit of a personal GRUDGE for me... As mentioned it IS possible to defeat it without war... and i shall FIND that way...

Pertinent to the original post and thread title, it sounds like someone has found a way to get past their Civ burnout. This is the principle of solving one challenge by presenting a more difficult one.

This is an especially effective tactic if you don't let the person involved know the principle being applied.

Ooops.

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[quakeboy]

for me i rotate with company of heroes, titan quest, fear, dawn of war 40k and soon to be c &c 3. its good to take a break and play something different but i always come back to a civ game.

[Middleman333]

For some reason whenever I go on vacation I feel refreshed in terms of games. I get ideas from visiting different places, meeting different people, etc. That should be a good way to alleviate the burnout. I don't know thats just me.