All governments in Civ4 are communist

[Sava]

Think about it... the GOVERNMENT builds the marketplaces. The GOVERNMENT builds Hollywood (so it can provide teh masses with it's propaganda). The GOVERNMENT builds all the power plants, universities, banks... my God... is there anything the GOVERNMENT doesn't build in Civ4?

Hmmm... NO!

Not only that, but all governments are totalitarian regimes. Sure, there might be some benevolent rulers here and there, but these are all Stalinist governments.

The civics are merely labels that hide the reality of this situation. There is no pacifism. There is no free market system. It's all just different forms of tyranny!

[Lord Avalon]

I thought it was all done by God (i.e., the Player).

[zeace]

But who controls everything before you research the technology to invent god?

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by zeace
But who controls everything before you research the technology to invent god?

It doesn't invent God -- just belief in one.

[Virdrago]

For which you need Mysticism.

[Will9]

You build things then give them to the people.

[Arrian]

@ Sava. Yeah, Civ is central planning to the nth degree. Duh.

-Arrian

[eris]

It is not Communism. It is a benevolent Dictatorship. It is a case of the Philospher King. It is Jehovah commanding the Isrealites. It is a Chinese dynasty. It is the pharoahs of Egypt acting as God-King. If it were Communism, there would be a Communist Party structure I would have to deal with before issuing any orders. Quite frankly, this particular 6000 year old demi-god is not going to put up with that. I've got enough problems managing my workers as it is!

[Blake]

"is the 'in civ4' in the title really necessary?"

"um don't you mean dictatorships?"

edit: Technically i think they are "Playerian Regimes" or something... a system which is ruled by an Iron Fist by an immortal player who may be good or evil or chaotic neutral or pretty much anything...

[Kuciwalker]

I predict this thread will be deleted.

I predict that it wouldn't be deleted if started by a noob Settler

[shanicus]

You make a good point.

I look at the system of building things in another way. Think of it as building the physical structures in some cases (libraries, and things that governments usually are responsible for building), but in other cases, like Hollywood or something that the private sector would build, what you build in the queue is more like a bureaucratic system to support and maintain such a structure or series of structures.

An example that comes to mind is the Supermarket. Would each city be realistically supplied and satisfied with a single utopian supermarket? Of course not! Cities with millions of people need many supermarkets. Plus, the supermarkets need a transportation system and a well organized structured bureaucracy in order to get the food to the consumer in a timely fashion. Building these systems is what you do in the queue.

So, the systems of checks and balances, the continued evolution of each city's bureaucracy and economy is represented by the queue.

At least, that is how I see it.

[Solver]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I predict this thread will be deleted.

I predict that it wouldn't be deleted if started by a noob Settler

Threads typically get closed, not deleted. And I think this one an be allowed to live so far.

[Diadem]

Apolyton is commie as well. We don't delete threads, we send them to Siberia

[Kuciwalker]

No, we send them to Mingapulco. And you call yourself a staff member

[Dis]

no mingapulco in civ4 sections.

As for commies. Well, I support goverment propaganda Hollywood films. But since I am leader, I have good taste in movies. So my citizens enjoy nothing but the finest entertainment and porn.