ack, to raze or not to raze...

[Kuciwalker]

Tenochitlan is a size seven city and the holy city of Hinduism. However, there are only a few Hindu cities so far, because Montezuma was marginalized... and more importantly, he built the city on top of a Wheat.

[Cort Haus]

If you've not got a religion, or a Prophet will be difficult to make, then take the shrine and don't worry about the wheat.

[Kuciwalker]

There's no shrine, and I'm about to invade the Jewish capital next, so... burn

[dzaffrann]

Still a Civ4 noob here since I waited for the Mac version:

I was under the impression that you still got the benefit of the tile underneath the city? That's what it says in the Civilopedia anyways. Am I wrong?

Z

[Quillan]

You get the resource, providing you've acquired the tech you would need to build the improvement that would normally be needed to access it (Agriculture in this case, which allows building of farms). However, that's the only benefit you get. Normally, a grassland wheat square produces something like 4 or 5 food, and another if it's next to fresh water (at work, so I'm not sure of the number and I can't check). Under the city, it'll produce 2 food and 1 hammer. That's it.

[dzaffrann]

Ah HA! Well that changes my city placement strat quite a bit. Or, translated, I'm a dumbass. I really need to learn the resources and tile improvements a lot better - previous Civ versions didn't require such a honed knowledge.

[Sabre2th]

I just looked... If you build on the wheat, you get 3 food. Wheat/grassland/farm on a river yields 6 food before biology.

[Hauptman]

Yes you still get the extra food from the tile... and just to say It's NOT a bad thing to have you're center square produce that 3 food.

Late game with electricity and Universla Sufferage, Resource squares start to become the LEAST productive squares. I have built watermills over elephants and other foodstuffs many times. I have even built my capital on top of food items as when cranking Great people a 3 food center pays off better than a 4 or 5 food tile ( due to unhappiness ).

[Quillan]

Very true in the late game, but you still need access to the resource SOMEPLACE to get the other benefit of it. Again, it's hard to check from work, but I'd guess that a grassland wheat square produces 3 food without the farm (2 base +1 for the unimproved wheat), so that's what you get by building the city on top of the wheat. You lose the benefit of the farm.

[Tokyo Sexwale]

I only found on a resource if there's only one Iron / Copper in my area and it's not on a hill. Easier than having to defend the tile.