Mysterious New Warlords Info On Wikipedia

[wardhali]

i think that it is false, as Satlin is tailor made for the new Charismatic trait, In fact I think that this trait is based on stalin, it would be a HUGE mistake to not give stalin Charismatic, He fooled the world for about 20 years. in fact stalin was so charismatic that he was able win an "election" (of party officials i think) against someone who had much beter ides than him, but had bad communication skills, he actually got him exiled, (and probably stole some of his ideas.

Propaganda was widely and VERY effectively used by Stalin, this is what the brodcast tower boost is in charismatic.

Stalin MUST have the Charismatic trait, therefore at least some of this information is false.

P.S. Read Animal Farm by George Orwell, Napoleon is Stalin, snowball is the other guy, squealer is propaganda, Old major is Karl Marx. it is an allegory of the rise of communism. (a good book two.)

[Solver]

How does the game make it more likely that a great scientist will come up, doesn't it matter on what the player does?

Wonders generate Great People points of a specific type. Oracle gives Prophet points, Pyramids Engineer points, etc.

[wardhali]

Stalin as Industrious/Aggressive.

Industrius fits stalin only to a point, but the five year plans, while somewhat succesful, only brought russia to an industrial par. it wouls be like giving Mao industrious for the "Great Leap Forward" (which was a disaster.)


I also dont see stalin as an aggressive, as his millitary wasnt exeptionally trained, and he exported communism more than actually declaring war on anyone (he was dragged into WWII when Hitler attacked him, Providing an opportunity to spread communism to the territory he got from the crumbling german empire. (leading to the berlin wall etc etc) I view stalin as more of a builder, not even an exeptional one.

My Ideal traits for Stalin would be Organized, Charismatic.

if the traits in the article dont fit, you must aquit

also dont you find it strange that the new leaders dont use any of the new traits?


(and doesnt napoleon already have these traits?)

[Simplicity]

The University of Sankore information was originally on another site (a gaming info site... but not one of the big 3: Gamespot, IGN, Gamespy). I can't seem to find that site anymore in my Google searches, but it's likely the Wiki writer got the info from there.

Not sure whether it was officially released or not (or whether it's completely bogus info).

[Qwertqwert]

Originally posted by Solver

How does the game make it more likely that a great scientist will come up, doesn't it matter on what the player does?

Wonders generate Great People points of a specific type. Oracle gives Prophet points, Pyramids Engineer points, etc.

I know... Are you saying they'll change them all to scientist?

[Dauphin]

It means that it would generate Great Leader points that count towards a Great Scientist, ergo the chances of having a Great Scientist are greater.

[Louis XXIV]

Originally posted by wardhali
I also dont see stalin as an aggressive, as his millitary wasnt exeptionally trained, and he exported communism more than actually declaring war on anyone (he was dragged into WWII when Hitler attacked him, Providing an opportunity to spread communism to the territory he got from the crumbling german empire. (leading to the berlin wall etc etc) I view stalin as more of a builder, not even an exeptional one.

Are you forgetting what he did before Hitler attacked him? He annexed the Baltic States and almost half of Poland. He was involved in military actions in Mongolia as well. Russia had one of the largest armies in the world. Stalin certainly acted agressive when it suited him.

My Ideal traits for Stalin would be Organized, Charismatic.

I will agree that aggressive might not be the best, though. But I do think Imperialistic fits him. Organized, Imperialistic or Charismatic, Imperialistic makes sense to me.

[monkspider]

My ideal traits for Stalin would be industrious/organized. Industrious for initiating one of the most successful industrialization programs in the history of the world and organized for organizing the Soviet economy into five year plans and so on. He wasn't actually very charismatic. Lenin was the charismatic one. Stalin was the quiet bureaucrat type.

I think protective and aggressive would both be reasonable traits to apply to him as well.

[LordShiva]

Organized + Praetorians = :drool:

But I don't like Creative

Creative is for hippies

[Autotropx Sox]

Having a free level 2 radii isn't something to like when your first two or three cities really count?

I'd much rather not be forced work towards an early religion or make an obelisk for an extra culture level when playing aggressively with other civs for crucial early resources in Monarch.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Autotropx Sox
Having a free level 2 radii isn't something to like when your first two or three cities really count?

I'd much rather not be forced work towards an early religion or make an obelisk for an extra culture level when playing aggressively with other civs for crucial early resources in Monarch.

With spiritual, you do get an early religion, neutralising Creative, plus you get to fine-tune civics on the fly

But this is going OT again.

[Solver]

Being Spiritual doesn't mean you start with Mysticism.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Solver
Being Spiritual doesn't mean you start with Mysticism.

Yup, most Spiritual leaders do get Mysticism, but not all (for example neither Mansa Musa nor Hatshepsut does).

[LordShiva]

OK. I've never played as those two.

[Thedrin]

I'm assuming that means that Egypt and Mali are for hippies.