Most successful AI

[CarnalCanaan]

I've seen a LOT of anecdotal evidence floated around as God's own truth concerning Civ 4 and it's multitude of AI minions. There seem to be some accepted received truths:

- Montezuma is a war-monger
- Isabella is a religious zealot
- Gandhi is good at the space race
- Tokugawa is an isolationist

But for every one of these "truths" I've experienced its disproof, such as the time Tokugawa came THIS close to winning a diplomatic victory.

Certainly, in any game as varied and variable as Civ 4 it would be foolish to think that no dramaticly different outcomes would result from the same AI.

To try to do this more scientifically, we'll start with a poll whose hypothesis I think we can all agree on:

"In your experience, which AI leader is most likely to declare war on you?"

Hypothesis: Montezuma will be chosen at least 40 percent of the time, and more than any other leader.

Does anyone think this would be useful data to have concerning other assumptions of AI behavior?

[CarnalCanaan]

NOTE: This will require significant response to be accurately measureable and to filter out responses such as, "I hate Montezuma so I never allow him in any of my games so X is most likely to attack me."

[Dis]

I only seen Toku do good in one game. And that was after he conquered another civ and parts of a 3rd.

My vote goes to Mansa Musa. The financial really helps out the AI, and I think the good early defensive unit protects them against barbs better allowing them to survive the early barb onslaught and start building their economy.

[JackRudd]

My computer won't let me vote. My vote would be invalid anyway - I mostly play World Map scenarios, so the answer depends on which country I play as.

[Sabre2th]

I think your results are going to be off anyway because many people won't notice that the poll question is different from the thread subject

If Monty's in my game and anywhere near me on the map, he WILL declare war on me. It's just a matter of when

[Grandpa Troll]

Im in a lot of Games
I been attacked more by Saladin and Cyyrus than any other

Of course, I do have a set policy, feed a growling dog once and feed it for life

I never cave to threats

[Strategist83]

I accidentally voted for Asoka (as most successful AI). The AI most likely to declare war on you is Alexander.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Strategist83
I accidentally voted for Asoka (as most successful AI). The AI most likely to declare war on you is Alexander.

Trying to learn here, is there a particular reason Alexander attacks?

Circumstances or just because hes a meanie?

[Rook]

hey the thread topic and poll are two different things. The most successful AI in my games is often Catherine. I'm not sure why, but if I don't knock her flat, she'll win.

I don't have too much of a problem with Monty. the reason is, Monty usually gets way behind me, and never has the power to attack. If he does, i slap him silly and he doesn't do it again.

Alexander and Cyrus are the ones who seem to want to kill me all the time.

[Grandpa Troll]

and I am in several games where Cyrus and Saladin ended up as allies and make a tough nut to crack

But its great practics and makes it more interesting to know should you be in for a penny, you'll be in for a pounding

[LordShiva]

I voted Gandhi, just to skew the results

[Locutus]

What the most successful AI is depends on who's playing against it. Warmongers will likely have less trouble with aggressive AIs, builders will have less trouble with builder AIs, etc. Also, map types and game settings play a big role, certain map types and game settingswill always favour some civs more than others. So it's largely a subjective thing, it differs per player.

[Saurus]

Voted Mansa Musa. However, there are several good candidates including Cyrus and Alex.

However, depends a lot. Circumstances matter.
I remember a particular game where Monty was the only warmonger and all other were peaceful builders.
Monty took advantage of this and actually concuered civ after civ one by one and even if having outdated units and soon controlled half of the land mass in the world.
I was killed too so I don't know have that game would have ended...


Tokugawa is not suprisingly the weakest A.I imo though it is strange that he still manages to have reasonable good relations with other A.I:s. But then of course the A.I relations towards other A.I:s works differently than A.I relations toward the human.

[JackRudd]

Originally posted by Rook
The most successful AI in my games is often Catherine. I'm not sure why, but if I don't knock her flat, she'll win.

Creative/Financial's one of the best defensive combos there is, actually. Cre improves your city defences, and Fin gets you ahead in the tech race. This usually makes it a bad idea for anyone to attack Catherine, so she can build up her forces at her leisure, and then strike when she gets Cossacks.

[kittenOFchaos]

Right this thread is whacked...

The title says "most successful AI" so most people vote Mansa, but the poll is asking which AI declares war most and that AIN'T going to be Mansa.

Nah, that is going to be Monte or Alex as both of them have no social skills and usually end up getting crushed by all the various civs they've attacked.