Burning Uranium?

[samspock]

I had just noticed this myself yesterday when I could build destroyers and battleships but not tanks until I hooked up my oil.

[Dis]

coal should be okay for ships. If you really want to get technical, you can reduce their movement by 1.

[player1]

Well, you can get pre-combustion uranium battleships if you go for Industrailism. And since Battleships do not require Combustion for some reason...

[Gherald]

Originally posted by player1 And since Battleships do not require Combustion for some reason...

Wow, never noticed that oddity. Probably because I often do Combustion before Sci Method (great library).

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

OK, just a few points, for what its worth.

(1) Having Horses appear before Horseback riding is perfectly fine. Why? Because animal husbandry represents the ability to train and breed herd animals. Horses were being used for their raw strength-for agriculture and combat-LONG before they were actually ridden.

(2) My feeling is that Uranium should NOT be available until a later tech than physics. What we need is to bring back the old 'Atomic Theory' tech, and make it available with Physics and/or Scientific method.

(3) Even after Uranium becomes visible, you should need a seperate terrain improvement to 'harness' it-the same as you do with oil. Perhaps a Uranium enrichment facility, which only becomes available with Fission!

What is great is that these last two ideas are easily done in the Civ4 editor!

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

[potoroo]

Talking of oddities, who else has noticed you can build Mech Inf without oil? I guess the reason the developers did that was so if you were in a late game war and lost your oil source(s) you had some sort of chance to get it back, having lost the ability to build modern armour, bombers, etc. Otherwise you'd be back to building cavalry.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Dis
oil never runs out

goota love that

[Dis]

Originally posted by potoroo
Talking of oddities, who else has noticed you can build Mech Inf without oil? I guess the reason the developers did that was so if you were in a late game war and lost your oil source(s) you had some sort of chance to get it back, having lost the ability to build modern armour, bombers, etc. Otherwise you'd be back to building cavalry.

yeah it helps you stay in the game. It kept me in before I was able to secure oil. And mech inf isn't a bad offensive unit either. Good enough to take over cities of a technologically inferior ai.

[_BuRjaCi_]

Originally posted by CarnalCanaan


I'm all for suspension-of-disbelief, but pre-combustion nuclear powered warships is a bridge too far for me.

Me too I mean why not make coal a prequisite for triemeres then?

[Martin the Dane]

Originally posted by _BuRjaCi_

Originally posted by CarnalCanaan
I'm all for suspension-of-disbelief, but pre-combustion nuclear powered warships is a bridge too far for me.

Me too I mean why not make coal a prequisite for triemeres then?

Erhm, witch one of you have a degree in nuclear physics or mecanical engeneering?
What exactly does combustion and fission have to do with each other?

Pre-fission nuclear plants is a bit far out, but pre-combustion would have been quite possible. A nuclear powered ship actually have quite a bit more in common with a steem powered ship than a diesel powered ship. In the two first cases water is heated to produce teem that drives an axel, in the later diesen is burned in apiston and the resulting presure causes a lateral motion that drives an axel. Granted old steem ships were piston driven, but modern steem ships are turbine driven, same as nuclear, it's just a matter of a diferent heat source.

[player1]

Actually, it's pre-combustion Uranium powered battleships without Fission (no nuclear plants yet).

[Martin the Dane]

Originally posted by player1
Actually, it's pre-combustion Uranium powered battleships without Fission (no nuclear plants yet).

That'll be pre-fission uranium powered battleships. Pre-combustion is just a coincidence, and as I said in my last post irellevant coincidence.

[player1]

Well, in game it can happen before combustion for Civ engineers to design Battleships that go on raw uranium.

But it can't happen in same Civ game to make Destroyers or Transports that goes on raw uranium without researching Combustion first.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Martin the Dane

Me too I mean why not make coal a prequisite for triemeres then?

Erhm, witch one of you have a degree in nuclear physics or mecanical engeneering?
What exactly does combustion and fission have to do with each other?

Pre-fission nuclear plants is a bit far out, but pre-combustion would have been quite possible. A nuclear powered ship actually have quite a bit more in common with a steem powered ship than a diesel powered ship. In the two first cases water is heated to produce teem that drives an axel, in the later diesen is burned in apiston and the resulting presure causes a lateral motion that drives an axel. Granted old steem ships were piston driven, but modern steem ships are turbine driven, same as nuclear, it's just a matter of a diferent heat source. [/QUOTE]

nevertheless fission of the uranium is required to produce heat. Therefore nuclear fission should be a requirement.

[Martin the Dane]

Agreed