Bad starting place - What do you do???

[Qwertqwert]

I play for maybe a thousand years then if I still this it's a crappy area I start over.

[Urban Ranger]

Haven't played any MP Civ 4games yet, but I am guessing it depends on the people you play with. I don't even know how it is set up.

I have seen some Starcraft MP games where players log on to a server and wait to play. In these games players quited all the time.

Sure, Starcraft is a much shorter game than Civ 4, but most players do understand what it is like to get stuck with a bad start.

[Addled Platypus]

allways play it out

you will learn things

[stevesk]

Hello! Thanks again for the answers...the problem about "survive" an era if I can't build the units from the era, as marvinkosh said, is simple: imagine you don't have iron, copper or horses and you have the romans as your neighbor and they have iron. You would defend your cities with archers against their 8 srt. units if they decide to attack you. Even swordsman, 6 str. I think much. You will need to be very good at diplomacy AND pray that no one decides to attack you.

[Stormhound]

There's an option in the in-game menu that lets you regenerate a map...if I don't immediately like my starting area, I'm not afraid to use it.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Stormhound
There's an option in the in-game menu that lets you regenerate a map...if I don't immediately like my starting area, I'm not afraid to use it.

It's in the World Builder AFAIK

[Saurus]

I'll tell you what a bad start is.
A bad start is one were you don't found the city on your first turn but instead move your setler...and then realizes some A.I that started just a few squares away from you have found a city that essentially blocks you from moving and also preventing you from founding your own city as beeing to close to the A.I city.
So stuck between the ocean and another civs cultural borders whitout beeing able to move nor build even the first city is what I consider a very, very bad start and I have had this happen 2 times now ... both times it happened on a standard sized Terra. (However, the first time this happened, it happened to an A.I)

[Urban Ranger]

The question is, why did you move your settler in the first place?

[Saurus]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
The question is, why did you move your settler in the first place?

Because my initial starting location was poor.

[stevesk]

I always do what Saurus did...sometimes it is 3500 B.C. and I am still walking to found my city LOL. As I said before on this thread, I don't ask too much...just a nice place close to a river. But, sometimes, it takes too long to find an available area close to a river. Specially if it is a Terra map with 18 civs as I generally play :P .

Edit: Oh, and I forgot one thing. I can start in a not-so-good place, but if I have copper or iron to defend myself it is ok. For me, this is better than starting in an awesome place but later you discover you haven't copper, iron...not even horses to defend yourself. As it was said, there is the option to "survive" until you build gunpowder units...but the question is: will you really be able to survive until that moment, if the best unit you can build is an archer?

[Yosho]

Oh, i usually play through. It can be an interesting challange. One game, I had no iron and no copper; I rushed my neighbor, conquered the Romans right away, and it turned out he had no iron or copper either. I ended up fighting a war with basically just war elephents and longbows against macemen, pikemen, and knights, and I was able to hold my own, and that was on pangea. It can be fun, starting from a bad position, just because you can get into interesting stratigic situations you wouldn't see in a normal game.

[conmcb25]

Quit and restart

[fed1943]

Stevesk:just do what's more fun to you:restart if you feel disheartned or injusticed,go on if you like the callenge,or you are unsure,save and then restart.
Best regards,

[stevesk]

Ok, seems that about 50% say to go ahead and about 50% say to restart. That's quite interesting about how each person deals in a different way with this situation...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Saurus
Because my initial starting location was poor.

There's no guarantee that a better site will be near your starting location.

Also losing turns that early may put you in a hole that you can't climb back out, esp when you play on emperor+ levels.