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  • #16
    @ Point 9.
    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
    We've got both kinds

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    • #17
      1. because you cannot just change skin and release it as a brand new game. (with some new features like the workshop) that would be a whole new level of ripping your customers off


      That hasn't stopped companies before

      2. I don't want them to waste valuable civ5 develop time to SMAC 2


      Ehhh...? The time 'wasted' will always be the same, as it's exactly the same work done. The only difference is the package

      4. The civ4 engine is REALLY GOOD


      That has been the point the whole time. Because the engine is good, it'll make much more sense to use that engine to create the SMAC II game, than to build a new engine

      Maybe 60% of the civ4 players will buy the SMAC expansion


      Maybe... but it'll also p*** off some players. An expansion is supposed to add something to a game, not make a completely new game, as your SMAC Expansion would be. If it was released as an XP I'm 100% sure I wont buy it because of this, while if it was released as a new game I might buy it (if it's any good)
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      • #18
        SMAC
        THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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        • #19
          haters

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          • #20
            If it was an x-pack it'd be cheaper than a full game - therefore I'd be more likely to buy it.

            Isn't CyberShy suggesting it be an "additional" x-pack anyway?
            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
            Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
            We've got both kinds

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            • #21
              You can't have something chaep if it needs lots of work.

              Just for all units and leader animations for SMAC you'll need more money then for one average expansion.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by player1
                I think Gamebryo engine is flexible enough to make brand new SMAC game based on it.
                The Gambryo engine is just graphics, though.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by CyberShy
                  SMAC is in fact just civ 2.5
                  No way. Alpha Centauri is greater than Civ 3 in many ways. Even Civ 4 is playing catch up in some of the areas.
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                  • #24
                    1. because you cannot just change skin and release it as a brand new game. (with some new features like the workshop) that would be a whole new level of ripping your customers off


                    huh, EA does it all the time.

                    sn't CyberShy suggesting it be an "additional" x-pack anyway?



                    We, Cyber is Dutch...
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                    • #25
                      what if the unit workshop in SMAC was added as a feature for the Xpack after all you would then get some more interesting options ie swords/axes /maces all being available relatively early just the materials changing the relative strengths. it would also give a better feel for how units changed over time

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                        No way. Alpha Centauri is greater than Civ 3 in many ways. Even Civ 4 is playing catch up in some of the areas.
                        I don't want a civ3 / smac debate, just in timelines. It's civ1, civ2, SMAC, civ3, civ4. Thus that makes SMAC civ 2,5 since the number 3 has already been given

                        Of course an additional XP
                        And they can add more to it then just change the look of the game and the techtree! I hope they'll do that with any XP anyway.
                        Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by unamablebuiler
                          what if the unit workshop in SMAC was added as a feature for the Xpack after all you would then get some more interesting options ie swords/axes /maces all being available relatively early just the materials changing the relative strengths. it would also give a better feel for how units changed over time
                          That's one way of making sure that I wont buy the XPack
                          This space is empty... or is it?

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                          • #28
                            Unit workshop
                            THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                            AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                            AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                            DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                            • #29
                              AC haters

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                              • #30
                                AC-hater haters

                                THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                                AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                                AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                                DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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