Babarians or not Babarians

[jonta]

It seems to me that barbs is very tough in Civ4, if you try
to play Prince or higher

How do you deal with Barbs (any good suggestions)


Im working on a gamestorie that will post later in
Civ4-Stories/Reviews, i want to play it
PRINCE MARATON NOLOADS

But if i have Barbs turned on, its a risky thing
my storie might be a little short, and my winning probs will be rather bad

[Blake]

To deal with marathon barbs make archer an extremely high priority, going for bronze working first will result in certain death if you fail to get very easy copper.

Also, don't train workers at the tart. Their hard work just gets ripped up. Just focus on wonders and expansion, lakes and seafood are very good. On highlands you can often use mountain ranges to create safe areas for terrain improvement.

Also, it'll suck if you don't get copper or Iron. But it's not an insurmountable difficulty, just found on hills and have plenty of archers.

[jonta]

Thanks for Your advise

I better start a new "storie"
Got no copper in sight, havent got Archers, and
i feel that very soon the barbs will start comming in strong

Why do you want me to build on Hills ?

[Blake]

+25% defense, and another +25% for archers.

[Adagio]

On Prince I have barbarians disabled. Playing on Marathon just spawns way too many barbs, even when I'm building units at full speed. Last game I tried to have it on, the barbarians arrived with 3+ axemen around the same time I finished researching archers. I haven't even researched bronze working yet, so all I had was warriors

[Saurus]

Voted Barbs (standard)
However, I wish that standard would really mean standrard! Currently I feel it is more at random.

Sometimes there seem to be almost no barbarians at all.
Then at other times they appear at every turn from all directions and in infinite numbers and this does not seem to have a connection to how much unoccupied land there is near by. Nor does it have anything to do with barbarian cities.

[The keeper]

How I deal with barbs: risky


Make having a road between your settlements a high priority. Have a warrior in each city. Station other warriors just outside of your cultural boundrys on forested hills - even better if your warrior can get woodsman promotion.

Having your warriors stationed outside your cultural boundry and on a hill rids the most fog possible. This means that barbs must spawn farther from your cities. They are usually going to attack the first unit they see. A fortified woodsman 1 warrior on a forested hill has an adjusted strength of 4.5 (2 + 125% 25 for fortified, 25 for hill, 50 for woods, 25 for woodsman)

Your warrior will not take axemen, but by the time that barb axemen start to come around, surely you have been able to get horses, copper, or iron. If you dont have either of those three, You better get to fudelism quick for the lowbows.

[Tokyo Sexwale]

Yeah, the trick is to put as many archers as possible on forested hills just inside and outside your territory. They will rake in promotions (give them hill defense) and easily be able to take out barb axemen and swordsmen. I usually only leave 1 or 2 archers in the city itself. (This is very different from previous Civs where the majority of my troops just stayed in the city where they were built. Call it agressive defense.)

But barbs are a real p in the a... quite realistic when you think about classical history, I supoose.

[Modo44]

Raging barbs. Always.

[Bill3000]

I rather have Barbarians rather than Babarians.

[Willem]

Originally posted by The keeper
If you dont have either of those three, You better get to fudelism quick for the lowbows.

Just an Archer will do. Place it on a Hill and a Barb axeman is usually no match for it, though they occasionaly get lucky. I've seen Swordsman lose to a lowly Archer on a wooded Hill. I think Archers are the most underrated unit in the game, many people seem to overlook them.

[Alex]

Originally posted by Bill3000
I rather have Barbarians rather than Babarians.

Yeah... what are Babarians, anyway? Worshippers of the Baba Yetu song?

[Saurus]

Originally posted by The keeper

Make having a road between your settlements a high priority.

When playing Emperor, the last thing you want to spend early reserach points on is "The Wheel"

[Willem]

Originally posted by Saurus


When playing Emperor, the last thing you want to spend early reserach points on is "The Wheel"

You need The Wheel in order to get Pottery and build Cottages.

[Paddy]

Bards Standard.

There is something about them old bears, lions and other vritters that I enjoy

and if my history is correct, then it is only this last century that humans have not had such issues - something about massive population growth etc etc

yeah let the roam and plunder...

and if I playing a game with my brother, then raging barbs are a requirement he is demented