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  • #1

    Do caravels upgrade?

    General question, do the caravels promote/upgrade/advance like the rest of the military untis?

    What I mean is in the sense that Archers can be upgraded to Longbowman and I think to SAM Infantry at some point.
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  • #2
    Yes, they can become Frigates. Galleys can become either Galleons or Frigates, it's your choice.

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    • #3
      I'm a big fan of the multiple upgrade choices thing, by the way...
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Willem
        Yes, they can become Frigates. Galleys can become either Galleons or Frigates, it's your choice.
        Awesome, thanks again Willem!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LordShiva
          I'm a big fan of the multiple upgrade choices thing, by the way...
          I have noticed that and I agree it is nice. Although I don't know Civ life without since this is my first Civ game.

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          • #6
            caravels have a choice of becoming subs too FYI...

            That is a pricey purchase though.
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            • #7
              Surely not as much as upgrading bombers to stealth bombers?
              (upgrading ships in general is quite expensive)
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              • #8
                I just upgraded about 20 sailing vessels to destroyers, transports and battleships in my OCC game. A few turns later Monty tried to invade with with galleons. His poor troops never made it home.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hauptman
                  caravels have a choice of becoming subs too FYI...

                  That is a pricey purchase though.
                  Subs are the only other naval unit that can carry an explorer/spy/etc and sail through closed borders, right? If you upgrade to frigate/destroyer, you lose that.
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                  • #10
                    I don't think subs can carry units, can they? They can go through borders, though.

                    IMO, the Caravel should be expanded to an entire sea explorer/scout line. Perhaps make the Galley into a move 3 vessel/can't attack and make a Trireme with the old stats of the Galley, for starters. Eh. I do like the idea of the Caravel.
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                    • #11
                      Bill, Avalon is correct that the submarine can carry spies and scout units.

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                      • #12
                        Subs can carry special units just like the caravel.
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                        • #13
                          A spy on a sub can have quite a bit of fun with other civ's sea based resources to boot.

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                          • #14
                            Indeed.
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