My favourite way to win is via culture and I am looking for a way to speed things up. Need a plan for that, so I thought I start from the beginning and gathered some basic info.
Basically, I just wanted to tidy things up a bit.
Condition: 3 cities with 50.000+ culture (normal speed)
(epic 75K, marathon 150K, quick 25K)
source: civfanatics, see end of post
1) Sources:
Base:
Commerce
Wonders
Religion_+1
*Obelisk_+1
Temple_+1
Library_+2
Monastry_+2
Theatre_+3
University_+3
Academy_+4
Artist_+4
FoundedReligion_+5
GreatArtist_+12 (unmodified 333 Turns to produce 4000)
*built ones stay, stonehenge ones don't.
---
Multiplier:
Hermitage_+100%
Free Speech_+100%
Radio Tower_+50%
Broadway_+50%
RocknRoll_+50%
Hollywood_+50%
Cathedrals_+50% (1 per 3 temple)
---
Culture/turn per wonder:
+10:
Notre Dame_Artist_Stone
Parthenon_Artist_Marble
Sistine Chapel_Artist_Marble
Taj Mahal_Artist_Marble
Versailles_Merchant_---
+8:
Angkor Wat_Prophet_Stone
Great Library_Scientist_Marble
Hagia Sophia_Engineer_Marble
Oracle_Prophet_Marble
Stonehenge_Prophet_Stone
Spiral Minaret_Prophet_Stone
+6:
Chichen Itza_Prophet_Stone
Globe Theatre_Artist_---
Colossus_Merchant_Copper
Great Lighthouse_Merchant_Stone
Hanging Gardens_Engineer_Stone
Pyramids_Engineer_Stone
Statue of Liberty_Merchant_Copper
+4:
Forbidden Palace_Merchant_---
Heroic Epic_Artist_Marble
Mt. Rushmore_Artist_Stone
National Epic_Artist_Marble
Oxford_Scientist_Stone
Religious Shrines_Prophet_various
+2:
Palace_---_---
Red Cross_Scientist_---
Wonders double their culture output after some time.
Assumption is after 1000years.
2) Ponderings:
Possible Great Artist City:
Parthenon_+50% GPP
National Epic_+100% GPP
+Artist Wonders
+Pacifism Civic_+100% GPP
+PHI Leader_+100% GPP
Multiplier Distribution between the 3 cities:
City1 (300%):
Hermitage_+100%
Free Speech_+100%
Religion_+50%
Radio Tower_+50%
City2 (300%)
Free Speech_+100%
Radio Tower_+50%
Broadway_+50%
Hollywood_+50%
Religion_+50%
City3 (250%):
Free Speech_+100%
Radio Tower_+50%
RocknRoll_+50%
Religion_+50%
-> 9 Temple needed for 3 Religion Buildings (Stupa,Cathedral etc.)
General Questions:
When to stop research to switch to 100% Culture ?
Stop research to switch to 100% culture ?
When to touch the slider the first time ?
Is there any use of running at 10% or so ?
Does a Great Artist City make any sense ?
100% culture Golden Ages just pwn ?
How many Golden Ages can be exspected ? 2 ?
How many commerce do these cities generate ?
If commerce is important, how are techs like Printing Press to be evaluated?
Is the Creative trait worth anything ?
What state religion to choose ? Early one ? Wait til Philosophy or Code of Laws ?
Great Artists with multipliers ? Bomb GA's or not ?
Try to use specialists ?
Most important wonders (?):
Taj Mahal: Culture Golden Age
Eiffel Tower: Free Radio Tower in every city
Sistine Chapel: Using lots of specs?
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Ok, I did some games winning via culture but not really focussed. Build something here or there but had no real clue what I am doing^^
Most important question imho is, if one should / must aim for periods of 100% culture - maybe during Golden Ages.
What commerce distribution should one run early on and for long periods of time ? Maybe 20%...to get 2 happy faces from Theatres and 1 from Colosseum as a side effect?
Commerce distribution like 70% Science , 20% Culture, 10% Gold ?
Nice thing is that culture stuff can be done "en passant" (hello, chess fellows^^), one can still play in a military or builder way. Sure, one will build the Parthenon rather than the Great Lighthouse or so, but this is wonder choice - not unit choice.Also, pushing borders while at war is really fun ^^
General idea behind the "stop research" mumbling is that imho most late game techs are just space ship techs or prereqs for some space ship techs and one could save up that "wasted" beaker commerce for culture.
Sure, one needs defense...but why not stop at Infantry and have Infantry+80% defense (str 36) ?
Lots of questions and I hope here are some fellows who also love to deal with the Cultural Victory option =)
****
Sources:
victory + game speed conditions:
civfanatics
Basically, I just wanted to tidy things up a bit.
Condition: 3 cities with 50.000+ culture (normal speed)
(epic 75K, marathon 150K, quick 25K)
source: civfanatics, see end of post
1) Sources:
Base:
Commerce
Wonders
Religion_+1
*Obelisk_+1
Temple_+1
Library_+2
Monastry_+2
Theatre_+3
University_+3
Academy_+4
Artist_+4
FoundedReligion_+5
GreatArtist_+12 (unmodified 333 Turns to produce 4000)
*built ones stay, stonehenge ones don't.
---
Multiplier:
Hermitage_+100%
Free Speech_+100%
Radio Tower_+50%
Broadway_+50%
RocknRoll_+50%
Hollywood_+50%
Cathedrals_+50% (1 per 3 temple)
---
Culture/turn per wonder:
+10:
Notre Dame_Artist_Stone
Parthenon_Artist_Marble
Sistine Chapel_Artist_Marble
Taj Mahal_Artist_Marble
Versailles_Merchant_---
+8:
Angkor Wat_Prophet_Stone
Great Library_Scientist_Marble
Hagia Sophia_Engineer_Marble
Oracle_Prophet_Marble
Stonehenge_Prophet_Stone
Spiral Minaret_Prophet_Stone
+6:
Chichen Itza_Prophet_Stone
Globe Theatre_Artist_---
Colossus_Merchant_Copper
Great Lighthouse_Merchant_Stone
Hanging Gardens_Engineer_Stone
Pyramids_Engineer_Stone
Statue of Liberty_Merchant_Copper
+4:
Forbidden Palace_Merchant_---
Heroic Epic_Artist_Marble
Mt. Rushmore_Artist_Stone
National Epic_Artist_Marble
Oxford_Scientist_Stone
Religious Shrines_Prophet_various
+2:
Palace_---_---
Red Cross_Scientist_---
Wonders double their culture output after some time.
Assumption is after 1000years.
2) Ponderings:
Possible Great Artist City:
Parthenon_+50% GPP
National Epic_+100% GPP
+Artist Wonders
+Pacifism Civic_+100% GPP
+PHI Leader_+100% GPP
Multiplier Distribution between the 3 cities:
City1 (300%):
Hermitage_+100%
Free Speech_+100%
Religion_+50%
Radio Tower_+50%
City2 (300%)
Free Speech_+100%
Radio Tower_+50%
Broadway_+50%
Hollywood_+50%
Religion_+50%
City3 (250%):
Free Speech_+100%
Radio Tower_+50%
RocknRoll_+50%
Religion_+50%
-> 9 Temple needed for 3 Religion Buildings (Stupa,Cathedral etc.)
General Questions:
When to stop research to switch to 100% Culture ?
Stop research to switch to 100% culture ?
When to touch the slider the first time ?
Is there any use of running at 10% or so ?
Does a Great Artist City make any sense ?
100% culture Golden Ages just pwn ?
How many Golden Ages can be exspected ? 2 ?
How many commerce do these cities generate ?
If commerce is important, how are techs like Printing Press to be evaluated?
Is the Creative trait worth anything ?
What state religion to choose ? Early one ? Wait til Philosophy or Code of Laws ?
Great Artists with multipliers ? Bomb GA's or not ?
Try to use specialists ?
Most important wonders (?):
Taj Mahal: Culture Golden Age
Eiffel Tower: Free Radio Tower in every city
Sistine Chapel: Using lots of specs?
---
Ok, I did some games winning via culture but not really focussed. Build something here or there but had no real clue what I am doing^^
Most important question imho is, if one should / must aim for periods of 100% culture - maybe during Golden Ages.
What commerce distribution should one run early on and for long periods of time ? Maybe 20%...to get 2 happy faces from Theatres and 1 from Colosseum as a side effect?
Commerce distribution like 70% Science , 20% Culture, 10% Gold ?
Nice thing is that culture stuff can be done "en passant" (hello, chess fellows^^), one can still play in a military or builder way. Sure, one will build the Parthenon rather than the Great Lighthouse or so, but this is wonder choice - not unit choice.Also, pushing borders while at war is really fun ^^
General idea behind the "stop research" mumbling is that imho most late game techs are just space ship techs or prereqs for some space ship techs and one could save up that "wasted" beaker commerce for culture.
Sure, one needs defense...but why not stop at Infantry and have Infantry+80% defense (str 36) ?
Lots of questions and I hope here are some fellows who also love to deal with the Cultural Victory option =)
****
Sources:
victory + game speed conditions:
civfanatics
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