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Article: Civilization 4 Review by Chris "Velociryx" Hartpence (Part 2/2)

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  • #16
    Excellent review Vel. I too was a big SMAC fan and I felt that Civ 3 was a step backwards for the series. But I'm totally hooked on Civ 4. Heres something I'd like to add to your review.

    As you pointed out in your review, a big part of the attraction of Civ/SMAC series has been the jigsaw of overlapping factors in your empires success. This means that every strategy has an opportunity cost and makes for "interesting choices". A weakness in previous Civ games has been that AI Diplomacy always felt like an arbitrary and random process disconnected from the rest of the game.

    But in Civ 4 AI diplomacy is woven into the interlocking layers of strategy. Want the AI to like you? Research an early religion and export it to your rivals and you'll have a much more peaceful game. But theres an opportunity cost here. Researching an early religion means passing up other strong research beelines. And building monasteries and missionaries early in the game costs important early production that could be spent on other buildings.

    Culture impacts diplomacy too. You can use your culture in the early game to grab AI territory, but don't be surprised if the AI gets touchy because "close borders creates tension".

    I think its a huge improvement to the series that diplomacy has been woven into the complex "advantage/opportunity cost" jigsaw of Civ strategy.

    Tony

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    • #17
      Very refreshing & interesting review. Can we have an 'epilogue' after you've played for a month or so, to see what further insights you may have reach once the novelty value has worn off.

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      • #18
        I can't believe he didn't make a bigger deal of his overwhelming CTD problem...

        I have been able to play (post patch) without any CTD, but, man, I'd be ticked if I had 30+ crashes throughout the course of a game.

        I'm not playing any epic/huge map games, tho...

        Personally, I think he was a little too polite... but Chris is a very nice guy, and I think it would take an awful lot to get him to really rant about something.
        What is SportsDigs.com?

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        • #19
          Interesting, but as mentioned before by others, Reviewers are ignoring (or dont know) the carnage going on with the initial release. Its not on to release it in its current buggy form, many many users new & old have stumped up their cash and get zilch.

          Of course this happens a lot in the gaming world, rush for market share, end of year Bonuses etc. But the standard of the software on Civ IV initial release is appauling, there are Major issues, and here we are nearly 2 months later with no substantial fix on the horizon - leaving it to a CivFanatic User to produce a memory fix to keep things going.

          The trust in the playability of the Civ Series has gone, and many will no longer stump up pre-release cash or "V1" purchase again, beit 2K games or Civ IV. Of course by then the guys who made the dosh on the Civ IV release will be in pastures new ......

          The game itsef its superb, and cutting edge stuff, in that they deserve all the praise heaped on them.

          However the Release Management has been utterly appauling, but this is not reflected in the Gaming Press reviews. That is very very sad, and one has to wonder why that has been the case ...... retorical statement

          Trust builds a long term Game Community, this commercially driven drivil produces anger, frustration and emmense distrust. 2K Games have done that this time, if they do it again, they will never be forgiven- then watch the commercial consequencies.

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          • #20
            Excellent review Vel. I have played about 6 games on 'noble' until now and I agree with most of the points you make.
            Considering CTD's: +30 is indeed a lot. Luckily I did experience only 1 in all my games. I must confess though that my system isn't just a 'minimal requirement' rig, so maybe I'm not a good example in that aspect

            The one..more...turn from CIV2 is back on my part
            Adopt, Adapt and Improve

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            • #21
              I've never had one single CTD. I feel guilty.

              (Likewise, I've never played a Huge map. Is that the source of the problem perhaps? Bigger isn't always better.)

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              • #22
                Huge Epic games are very immersing, and with a computer purchased exclusively for civ4,* no CTDs (though there were occasional small pauses).

                * Hey, I know my priorities!!

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