3d Civ. I'm still a doubter.

[Boris Godunov]

Try here http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=143315

[MrFun]

Dude, I posted in that thread, then came back to this thread seconds after I already posted in that thread!

[Adagio]

I too was scared that CivIV would require too much of my computer to be able to run, but I was plesantly suprised as CivIV runs much better than CivIII did... and it's still the same old lame computer. During modern age in CivIV I have to wait a few seconds, while the same situation in CivIII would make me wait for at least 5 minutes

[Sava]

normally I would say laptops suck

but that one looks all right MrFun

although I was about to make fun of you when you said you were ready for "serious gaming" and you said Medieval Total War ran great on your system

you might want to use a more recent game (preferrably one that is graphics intensive) for benchmarking your system performance as it pertains to "serious gaming"


How does Freecell run on your new laptop?

But seriously.... GO GET CIV4....


RIGHT NOW!!!

trust me... after you get it, you will kick yourself for waiting so long to get it!!!

[JakeCourtney]

Upgrade your computer and get over it. A decent video card will do all the rendering of the visuals for your processor. So what's your problem?

[evizaer]

Originally posted by JakeCourtney
Upgrade your computer and get over it. A decent video card will do all the rendering of the visuals for your processor. So what's your problem?

I dropped $2000 on this laptop a little over a year ago. I can't go swapping out components without voiding my warranty. I am above minimum and recommended requirements. Why should i not be able to run the game without unplayable stuttering, even on lowest graphics settings, on a huge map? I can run Civ3 on a huge maps without any problems.

I'd rather the game run well regardless of how i'm playing it than have it run well only on top-of-the-line systems regardless of how you play. I don't want to spend $1500 on CivIV.

I brought up SMAC before because it had a smooth interface and, in general, it looked great and played even better. It wasn't 3d. It didn't tax my old system when i bought it a little while after it came out. I don't see a reason why Civ4 MUST be 3d. You can make graphics that look just as pretty in 2d.

[teutonic_knight]

I barely run above the required specs, yet it runs great. Make sure you aren't running a ton of processes. It did run slow on mine, but only because I had 29 processes running. Once I killed some I don't use, I was down to 19, and it ran without a problem.

[Dis]

I hate all those processes. I wish I knew which ones I actually need, and which ones I don't. And I wish I can prevent them from starting automatically when I turn on my computer.

[Stuie]

Originally posted by Dis
I hate all those processes. I wish I knew which ones I actually need, and which ones I don't. And I wish I can prevent them from starting automatically when I turn on my computer.

I second that.

I have yet to find a simple guide as to which can be safely shut off permanently. I tried turning off stuff that I thought would be safe once and then my internet connection didn't work. So I continue to wait for a simple guide...

[padillah]

Originally posted by MrFun
I am more concerned with all the buzz going around about the various types of bugs with Civ IV. I have noticed how large the thread covering bug reports has gotten.

This is deceptive. It got so big that people stopped reading it and just post bugs even though the bug has already been posted. It's gotten artificially inflated.

Tom P.

[Lucilla]

Originally posted by Sn00py
Oh, and btw, if this game were released in 2D, you can say goodbye to flexibility, you can say goodbye to modability, your computer would have an even harder time trying to run it and you can say hello to another dead game.

Snoopy,
could you please explain this part a bit? Why does 3D make it more flexible and modable?
Just a dump question from somebody not knowing enough about the connection between graphics and game concepts/mechanics.

[The Pioneer]

A friend of mine was complaining about the bad graphics of Civ III and he was not alone. You can never satisfy everybody, it will be difficult and if they had given a choice of playing the game in 2D I am pretty sure that some would complain that the option existed . As with everything in life you will have to compromise except if you can afford to hire Sid so that he can program a a game just for you!

The game is awesome!

So long...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by padillah


This is deceptive. It got so big that people stopped reading it and just post bugs even though the bug has already been posted. It's gotten artificially inflated.

Tom P.

Not to mention folks like LzPrst who spam it and other threads with the same old whining every 5 minutes.

[padillah]

Originally posted by Stuie


I second that.

I have yet to find a simple guide as to which can be safely shut off permanently. I tried turning off stuff that I thought would be safe once and then my internet connection didn't work. So I continue to wait for a simple guide...

Try this. Cost $50 but it'll tell you all you need to know.

http://www.liutilities.com/products/campaigns/plib/4/tg7/wintasks/index.php

And it comes with some other free software to speedup your PC through tweeks.

And www.liutilities.com has good advice regarding windows processes and whether you should turn them off or not.

Tom P.

[MikeH]

I guess Civ (only) gamers aren't used to this...

I've had to buy upgrades/new PCs/new consoles many times for various games. Luckily I had to get a new PC for Half Life 2 anyway.