LOL Lost in the Last Turn by Points

[Traelin]

You gotta be kidding me LOL, I lost to Hatshepsut in the LAST TURN by points, literally. Just outta curiosity, I was trying to figure out how I lost. She just kept gaining more points than me, and I was stronger, bigger, more advanced, and wealthier. Is military scored at all? I didn't see any points gained for my power. I coulda wiped her in the last 50 turns...

[Peets]

Land and population also seem to be a big point.

[Konquest02]

Then why didn't you wiped her...?

[Traelin]

Originally posted by Konquest02
Then why didn't you wiped her...?

I wasn't focusing on warmongering at the time, cuz every time I do, I lose points unless it involves capturing a city. I have this strange feeling that your military size (in previous Civ games, your power was dictated by your total unit strength or something) plays no role in scoring. At least, I'm not able to see how it is scored. If that's the case, then the entire way I used to play is out the window. And that's silly if military isn't scored at all, because America, the Arab Empire, the Romans, the Brits, the Russians, and almost all other notable Civs can partially thank their dominance throughout history to their military strength.

I know this may bother peaceloving players, but it seems to me that the game has taken an extreme turn toward the opposite end of the spectrum. Civ3 was bad for peacelovers, I admit that. Civ4 favors peacelovers more, and that's fine, too. Heck, the game is pretty darn good IMO. But at least have some sort of notable scoring to account for military.

All I can determine is that you are scored on population, land area, wonders, and technologies. Am I wrong on this?

EDIT: One other thing I forgot to mention is that I always turn off every Victory Condition except Diplo, Dom, and Conquest. The rest of them I have no use for, and so far in Civ4 I've only been able to go for Diplo or Points. I play on a Huge world, so this isn't unexpected.

[Kekkonen]

I also lost last night, Mansa Musa completed his spaceship the turn before my #3 city would've reached legendary cultural status. All my own fault, though; I was building a space ship too instead of going all-out for the culture win. Because of my half-assed approach, I couldn't finish the space ship in time either, because it took me too long to research genetics and get the manufacture of the final component on its way.

I suppose Spock is right: if you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

[Paddy]

Good luck next time Traelin. You need to bring out that inner warmonger a bit

[RadeonZero]

I know this may bother peaceloving players, but it seems to me that the game has taken an extreme turn toward the opposite end of the spectrum.

I think the same

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...38#post4126338 point [117]

That's why I say Fireaxis could include a game option (Raging worlds) where military units would be cheaper.
Usually, I like to play without involving in wars but a fight from time to time may be funny.

[archermoo]

Re: LOL Lost in the Last Turn by Points

Originally posted by Traelin
You gotta be kidding me LOL, I lost to Hatshepsut in the LAST TURN by points, literally. Just outta curiosity, I was trying to figure out how I lost. She just kept gaining more points than me, and I was stronger, bigger, more advanced, and wealthier. Is military scored at all? I didn't see any points gained for my power. I coulda wiped her in the last 50 turns...

If you mouse over your civ in the display in the lower right hand corner, it'll give you a breakdown as to where all of your points are coming from.

[Adagio]

And I managed to do the opposite: I won the cultural victory the last turn in the game (year 2050)... I didn't have the highest score so I would have lost if it didn't become legendary that turn

[quinalla]

Re: Re: LOL Lost in the Last Turn by Points

Originally posted by archermoo

If you mouse over your civ in the display in the lower right hand corner, it'll give you a breakdown as to where all of your points are coming from.

Yup, look there and you can see where you need to improve, I think it takes into account wonders, tech, population and area covered with the last two being the biggest contributers. My guess is she had a lot more land and/or population than you did.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kekkonen
I also lost last night, Mansa Musa completed his spaceship the turn before my #3 city would've reached legendary cultural status. All my own fault, though; I was building a space ship too instead of going all-out for the culture win. Because of my half-assed approach, I couldn't finish the space ship in time either, because it took me too long to research genetics and get the manufacture of the final component on its way.

I suppose Spock is right: if you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

hehe, I was doing the same thing. But a little thing called the reload option saved me. Spock's little quote doesn't take into account reloads.

[Brutus66]

Speaking of reloads, it would be nice if the game gave me an odds percentage for a spy to succeed (like the way you can get odds with a military unity before initiating combat).

[GeoModder]

The game does give an odds percentage on spy missions. On the same place as where the military odds are displayed.