The Romans--Civ 4 on Easy Mode?

[kittenOFchaos]

Getting Redcoats before your enemies have got musketeers is to completely own

(Noble on huge map, max civs)

[jdog2050]

Originally posted by Arrian


Ah, so Axemen should fair pretty well against them. I imagine the problem, if any, is that the AI doesn't build enough Axemen. Then again, I got into an early war a couple games back and Napolean hit me with several axemen (early).

-Arrian

I think that's where I may be getting this. I built an army of about 10 praetorians, 2 catapults, and 3 axeman, and just city rushed and razed (my philosophy was to keep them moving) and followed up with a settler.

The thing I noticed is that even though the praets should be fairly matched against axe man, as long as your training city had a barracks, that was kind of the end of the story. And god forbid your praetorian actually survive 3 or 4 battles. I had some rank 3 and 4 praetorians that remained useful for a ridiculously long time.

Someone mentioned that Iron could be a weak link, which is true, but if you don't have iron, you've already got two strikes against you anyway

I had no real problems with elephants.

[spy14]

Originally posted by Arrian


Ah, so Axemen should fair pretty well against them. I imagine the problem, if any, is that the AI doesn't build enough Axemen. Then again, I got into an early war a couple games back and Napolean hit me with several axemen (early).

-Arrian

In theory mounted units should have a bonus against axemen (not sure if this is reflected in the game?) - assuming it is though take some along.

[padillah]

Originally posted by Arrian
Oh, I misread, sorry. I get it now. Romans on noble = easy mode.

-Arrian

"Bloody Romans! What have they ever given us? Eh?"


Tom P.

[Alphard]

Originally posted by padillah

"Bloody Romans! What have they ever given us? Eh?"

Wine? .. Yes sure.. thats good..
Roads.. Irrigation.. Order in the streets, the Games..

But yeah.. besides that.. what have they ever done for us?

[binTravkin]

Wine? - Not romans
Roads - Not romans, only enhanced by them
Irrigation - You're wrong by full 4000 thousand years, dude
Order in the streets - You must be kidding
the Games - go read some history

[Alphard]

Originally posted by binTravkin
Wine? - Not romans
Roads - Not romans, only enhanced by them
Irrigation - You're wrong by full 4000 thousand years, dude
Order in the streets - You must be kidding
the Games - go read some history

I admit you may be way better than me in history but i know my movie magic. It was a reference to Monty Python and the life of Brian' you probably missed.

Anyways what I like about the praetorians is that i get them the level up of +25% against melee units and the upgrade them to macemen totalling +75% against melee units. wee..

Can you get that 'level up' with macemen also or can i achieve 75% only with upgrading?

[Fried-Psitalon]

All melee units share the same potential promotion pool, so anything available to a Praet is also available to a mace.

[Jon Shafer]

Praets don't get the normal 10% against city Sword bonus, it should be noted.

[padillah]

Originally posted by Alphard

I admit you may be way better than me in history but i know my movie magic. It was a reference to Monty Python and the life of Brian' you probably missed.

I believe the entire thing end with:
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"



Sorry for the obscurity but I couldn't resist.

Tom P.
(And BTW it was about what the romans had ever done for the Jewish. Not what they had invented. So, it was a little out of context but, in the end, not wholly wrong.)

[Silencer]

Hmm they were the one that built London ?? some cities in France?? some Culture in Germany ??

[hanZ]

i just won a game as romans (small map) on King-Level (2 above default, i guess its "king" in the english version :P)

i've built 2 cities, rushed for iron working, built 2 barracks, than 8 praetrians. i've trained them against some barbs and than rushed against my next neighbor - like a hot knife through butter. i've pillaged their copper-mines and lost only 2 Praetorians to 2 already existing axemen. The bowmen were no match for them. praets are pretty uber, if you ask me.

after taking london and york i made peace with them and took 2 of the newer cities of my next enemy just for the impact to his development - and promotion harvesting.

i had really problems to stabilize my economy after this early rush - but my well trained praetorians were perfect defenders against anything, that came out of the enemies barracks for the next ages.

later in the game i've upgraded them, and after a short war, i've won a conquest-victory.

the ai never had a chance to compensate the damage its development took so early in the game. i still havent played with all civs, but in my eyes romans are extremely powerfull - due to the praetorians dominating the battlefield until the late middle age. i even killed some knights and musketers with my heavily promoted praets.

[jdog2050]

Wow, yeah, thanks for backin' me up on this one. I think it's not just the praetorian, it's the combination of the praetorian and the barracks that's pretty nasty.

If it helps, I've also started making it a point to rush to Vassalage also.

[Silencer]

The wonder of baracks - don't go to war without them

[TheBaumer]

Just got the game yesterday and was able to install it and play for about 3 or 4 hours. Started with the Romans and beelined to Iron Working - was lucky enough to have some iron resources.

The Praets coming out of my barracks have already destroyed one civ and crippled another - soon the Romans will hold the entire continent (not a terribly large one).

This unit IMHO is THE unit for taking cities early on.