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  • #91
    Originally posted by sophist

    At this time, it doesn't make any difference for performance, but PCI Express cards don't cost more than AGP ones (apples to apples), and PCI Express motherboards don't cost a whole lot more either.
    Then why bother switching?

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    • #92
      Guess I didn't have the bad porn on my 'puter, as Civ4 is running fine. Have already run a game on normal size world, bumped up another size last night, running nicely, no slowdowns at all.

      Posting specs as requested:

      P4 2.8
      512 MB Kingston cheapo RAM
      Soyo Dragon 2 mobo
      ATI Radeon 9800 128 MB (MSI branded)

      FYI, I'm not shutting down any of my normal background programs to run this. Background is running (along with normal programs):

      TrendMicro PC-Cillin
      Logitech Mouseware
      Picassa2 Media Detector
      ALi RAID Manager
      ATI Launch Center

      Don't know if this helps at all.

      Lee

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Leezell
        Guess I didn't have the bad porn on my 'puter, as Civ4 is running fine. Have already run a game on normal size world, bumped up another size last night, running nicely, no slowdowns at all.

        Posting specs as requested:

        P4 2.8
        512 MB Kingston cheapo RAM
        Soyo Dragon 2 mobo
        ATI Radeon 9800 128 MB (MSI branded)

        FYI, I'm not shutting down any of my normal background programs to run this. Background is running (along with normal programs):

        TrendMicro PC-Cillin
        Logitech Mouseware
        Picassa2 Media Detector
        ALi RAID Manager
        ATI Launch Center

        Don't know if this helps at all.

        Lee
        Lee – Thanks for the tip. Deleting all ”bad porn” now. Not sure what the difference is between “bad porn” and “good porn”. May need further clarification later.

        Glad to see you are having luck with the game. I guess I will just re-read the manual again.
        Gregules

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        • #94
          Originally posted by gregules

          I guess I will just re-read the manual again.
          My lord how many times have I read that at this point!
          Siga El Conejo Blanco
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          • #95
            I'm a little shakey on the whole good porn / bad porn thing.

            Maybe you could post some examples...

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            • #96
              This is a family site.

              Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
              I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Nikolai
                This is a family site.

                Yes, to see a family friend version of that, Brutus66, just see Nikolai's posts in the Picture Thread
                Haven't been here for ages....

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Willem

                  Then why bother switching?
                  Why should he switch or why is the industry switching? I don't think anybody should switch from AGP to PCI-E unless they're building a whole new machine. The industry is switching now because there will be a performance bottleneck in the future. Also, PCI-E is not limited to graphics; whereas before, there were multiple buses for different purposes, it is intended that PCI-E support a diverse array of devices, from graphics cards to storage controllers to network cards and so forth (which is why there can be different numbers of "lanes"). That commonality makes things cheaper to design, build, and support, while also providing a higher-performance bus for future use. For example, a Gigabit Ethernet card could saturate a regular PCI bus. However, Gigabit Ethernet is not yet commonplace, so introducing PCI-E now will give the bus standard time to penetrate the market so that Gigabit Ethernet isn't bottlenecked when it does become common.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Nikolai
                    This is a family site.

                    Why isn’t Leezell commenting? He/She must be uhh.. downloading something.

                    If I only had a patch I could do constructive things with my free time like play a game.

                    Anyone seen a patch?

                    Need a patch.
                    Gregules

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                    • Originally posted by sophist


                      Why should he switch or why is the industry switching? I don't think anybody should switch from AGP to PCI-E unless they're building a whole new machine. The industry is switching now because there will be a performance bottleneck in the future. Also, PCI-E is not limited to graphics; whereas before, there were multiple buses for different purposes, it is intended that PCI-E support a diverse array of devices, from graphics cards to storage controllers to network cards and so forth (which is why there can be different numbers of "lanes"). That commonality makes things cheaper to design, build, and support, while also providing a higher-performance bus for future use. For example, a Gigabit Ethernet card could saturate a regular PCI bus. However, Gigabit Ethernet is not yet commonplace, so introducing PCI-E now will give the bus standard time to penetrate the market so that Gigabit Ethernet isn't bottlenecked when it does become common.
                      Thanks for the info, this is actually the first time I've heard of it. I don't get out much these days.

                      And I meant the industry in general.

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                      • Originally posted by Shogun Gunner


                        Yes, to see a family friend version of that, Brutus66, just see Nikolai's posts in the Picture Thread
                        .......


                        HEY!
                        Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
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                        • They haven't even had that much time to work on the patch yet. Everyone knows they go on vacation after it goes Gold.
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                          • Originally posted by JakeCourtney
                            They haven't even had that much time to work on the patch yet. Everyone knows they go on vacation after it goes Gold.
                            They are probably still hung-over from the party. And then there are the Holidays...maybe we will see somthing by Spring.
                            Gregules

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                            • By the way, what does a Guy have to do to get promoted from a “Settler” around here?
                              Gregules

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                              • Americans... Call Christmas Christmas, not a generic name that can mean any holiday.
                                Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                                I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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