I really like the movies, when they actually work properly. Though I agree that SMAC has had by far the best of the series, they also had better material to work with (in that they didn't have to match any real-world structures, not that the real-world wonders are anything to sneeze at...)
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Originally posted by Solver
Well, CtP and SMAC had the best wonder movies of them all... but the Civ4 ones are pretty stylish. It's not grand, but it's quite simple and elegant.Last edited by ml_4da3; October 30, 2005, 18:15.
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Originally posted by Jeff061
I'm not sure I understand the mindset of a person who focuses on wonder videos, city views and palace building while playing Civ. That ranks right up there with not liking the Civ IV box art.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Of course people have a right to be dissapointed when they were expecting something like the great movies in Civ 2. Even if it's a minor part of the whole it' still a letdown.It's candy. Surely there are more important things the NAACP could be boycotting. If the candy were shaped like a burning cross or a black man made of regular chocolate being dragged behind a truck made of white chocolate I could understand the outrage and would share it. - Drosedars
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Of course people have a right to be dissapointed when they were expecting something like the great movies in Civ 2. Even if it's a minor part of the whole it' still a letdown.
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Originally posted by LordShiva
I had to turn movies off... Any idea how I can play those .BIK files so that I get to see them?
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Re: I'm ashamed at the content of Wonder movies
Originally posted by ghen
"Great!" we all thought.. "Wonder movies are coming back!"
Too bad every single wonder movie is the exact same storyboard.. Concept drawing->base structure->build process->finished product->landscape finishing touches.
WOOPEEE I'd rather have the detailed palace and city views back.. At least they can be somewhat interesting.
Why did they even bother telling us they were coming back? If it had just been a pleasant suprise there wouldn't be any hype.. But noooo it was made a minor selling point.
Here's to hoping that late-game wonders are at least original in movie production.. I just haven't reached that far yet in my first game
And as for the one who said that he can't understand someone who is concerned with these things...It is part of the atmosphere. The same way the music is, and the graphics are.
The wonder movies are very cookie cutter and boring, but as stated before if this is the worst thing, then the game is good.
I would love the palace back. It gave you a sense of your growing kingdom.
These things are no less important than music or any other aesthethic aspect included. If all that was necessary was sheer gameplay, then this game wouldn't have needed a new engine, just re-use the old and stand on proven gameplay.
The designers saw the need to update things for a new graphical engine, which shows that they know the value of atmosphere, YET AT THE SAME TIME they cut out the very things that have defined the civ experience.While there might be a physics engine that applies to the jugs, I doubt that an entire engine was written specifically for the funbags. - Cyclotron - debating the pressing issue of boobies in games.
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I will say I personally am happy the palace is gone. It was always just a distraction to me as it didn't have any affect on the game and I didn't much care about building my dream palace.
Don't get me wrong about the videos, I'd love ones like SMAC, but in the end I don't really care.
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Re: I'm ashamed at the content of Wonder movies
Originally posted by ghen
"Great!" we all thought.. "Wonder movies are coming back!"
Too bad every single wonder movie is the exact same storyboard.. Concept drawing->base structure->build process->finished product->landscape finishing touches.
WOOPEEE I'd rather have the detailed palace and city views back.. At least they can be somewhat interesting.
Why did they even bother telling us they were coming back? If it had just been a pleasant suprise there wouldn't be any hype.. But noooo it was made a minor selling point.
Here's to hoping that late-game wonders are at least original in movie production.. I just haven't reached that far yet in my first game
Sorry to be a stickler but you can't be "ashamed" unless you had a hand in creating these.
As to the point, though, I agree that they should have been a tad more interesting since, as others have pointed out, we had better ones in the past. Those and the palace building may not be for everyone but a game like this needs some of the extra "fluff" or could get tiresome.
And finally, yes, since it was a selling point, they really let us down.Lord Michlo
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