SMAC-style UN Council confirmed on GameSHOUT

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

Hi guys, according to info on the CFC, Sid Meier has confirmed in his GameSHOUT interview that the nation which heads the UN (i.e. Secretary General) can call for votes on issues like Civics changes, embargoes and the like-I am not certain if they are 'binding', but I suspect that a nation which ignores a resolution will probably come under 'diplomatic sanction' (rep loss, possible action against them etc etc).

Also, Soren teasingly came into the GameSHOUT thread and mentioned the following:

yeah, I was nervous too. There's a lot more to talk about diplomacy (trade routes, embargoes, war plans, permanent alliances, etc.) but it just vanishes from one's mind on live radio!

I don't know about you guys, but the diplomatic/trade side of this game is sounding like it is really gonna be the 'killer improved feature' for me.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

[Guynemer]

yes, Yes, YES!!!





Holy crap. When people talked about what they wanted from Civ4, I held out the futile hope that they would take the best elements from SMAC ("flavor", SE, UN) and add the best elements of Civ3 (resources).

And I'll be goddamned if it doesn't sound like that is ex-freakin-actly what they're doing!

[laurentius]

it just keeps getting better

[Addled Platypus]

that was a entertaining interview

just to short in time, and a little choppy despite the DSL bandwith

[ChrisiusMaximus]

I foresee little sleep in the coming weeks

[Robert]

Secretary General can call for votes on issues like Civics changes, embargoes and the like

this was not in the smac UN, was it?

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

It was-though in SMAC it was called the Planetary Council-but you had voting on key issues, and lots of bribery/schmoozing to get a favourable vote on an issue you felt strongly about (like becoming head of the council !) I was always suprised this didn't make it into Civ3 actually, but at least it seems to have finally made it in to Civ4 !

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

[Martinus]

Wow, that's awesome news!

I am just wondering if there will be a lot of use for this, since I suppose it will be more or less an end game feature (unless they introduce this kind of thing earlier than historically).

[Nikolai]

/me crying in happiness for these news.

[ChrisiusMaximus]

Originally posted by Martinus
Wow, that's awesome news!

I am just wondering if there will be a lot of use for this, since I suppose it will be more or less an end game feature (unless they introduce this kind of thing earlier than historically).

Even if it is limited to the late game its got to be a massive improvement to the late game tedium of Civ 3


I think Diplomacy has been improved throughout the game and this is merely the icing on the cake, a very tasty and delicious cake

[Harovan]

Sounds wonderful!

[Robert]

I thought in Smac you could only vote for someone to win a diplomatic victory...

[Martinus]

Originally posted by CyberShy
I thought in Smac you could only vote for someone to win a diplomatic victory...

No way. There was a number of proposals you could vote for, including lowering and raising the global sea levels or salvaging the Unity Core (which was extra cash).

I wonder what kind of resolutions could be passed in CivIV (besides those already mentioned)?

[Nikolai]

Peace keeping missions.

[Robert]

Maybe that was in one of the SMAC expansions? (never bought those)