Interesting...

[MxM]

Why do you think that there are no complaints about different civs having different traits in Civ, but when you try to discuss the differences between religions (for Civ game) you get objections?

[MrFun]

I object to this thread. I want you to edit the word "religion" out of your OP!!

[MxM]

[Dale]

MrFun:

I object to your use of the term "thread". It implies this discussion is thin in substance. It should be refered to as "discussion".

Dale

[alva]

MrFun made a funny!!!



/me looks out of his window expecting to see flying pigs and remembers to grab a warm coat for his visit to hell.

[Martinus]

Because Firaxis doesn't want to have planes piloted into their headquarters.

In any case, they have moved away from civs having specific traits like in Civ III to a more politically correct approach of having leaders with different traits.

[MarkG]

we get different pretty buildings for each religion though!

besides, what traits would you put on christianism vs budhism?

[Martinus]

Originally posted by MarkG
we get different pretty buildings for each religion though!

besides, what traits would you put on christianism vs budhism?

Well, you could think of something. For example, the fact that Christianism is a missionary religion, which would improve both the effectiveness of the missionaries, and give some expansionist bonuses, whereas budhism is more internally oriented, which could help spread ascetic values (e.g. less upkeep, less pollution/unhealthiness) but at the same time spread slower.

Likewise, whereas religions such as islam, christianity or judaism were driving force between many historical conquests, there weren't many historical attempts to spread taoism, budhism or hinduism by the sword (which itself could lead to different bonuses).

But I guess religious SE techs, such as Pacifism, or Theocracy, can represent these differences (e.g. you can say that Christianity with pacifism is more of the "first Christians" type, wheres with Theocracy or State Religion is more of a crusader-era type).

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by MarkG
besides, what traits would you put on christianism vs budhism?

buddhism could have higher health, requiring less food resource types (or are only monks vegetarian ? )

christianity: like martines said. and also christianity tumbles into dark ages and low research in theocratic and feudalistic modes but thrives in secular situations?
(and to provoke: seeing religious items in water-marks along some walls, etc )

[MarkG]

in the end you have civics to give you peace-related or conquest-related bonuses. adding such bonuses to religion would make the whole thing too complex and hard to balance

[MxM]

Originally posted by Martinus
Because Firaxis doesn't want to have planes piloted into their headquarters.

In any case, they have moved away from civs having specific traits like in Civ III to a more politically correct approach of having leaders with different traits.

According to the Gamespot preview I read, this is not true. The civs still have traits, in addition to the leaders.

[MxM]

Originally posted by MarkG
adding such bonuses to religion would make the whole thing
too complex and hard to balance

Mark, I do not understand this argument. They balance civ traits, leader traits, civics, but for whatever reason balancing "religion traits" is hard(er) and and make it too complex? It is relatively small "complication" yet, it gives another dimension to the game. Plus, you can give positive AND negative effects to each religion, so that the net result is 0 if you worry about balance.

[Philotas]

If the religions were given different traits, then one or two would be recognized as the "best" religion. And, if it was a religion other than Christianity, Pat Robertson would ask to have the CIA assassinate Sid.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Dale
MrFun:

I object to your use of the term "thread". It implies this discussion is thin in substance. It should be refered to as "discussion".

Dale

Substantial discussion? On Apolyton?

[MxM]

Originally posted by Philotas
If the religions were given different traits, then one or two would be recognized as the "best" religion. And, if it was a religion other than Christianity, Pat Robertson would ask to have the CIA assassinate Sid.

and why the same could not be said about countries?