The Great Leader (Guess) List

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Aro


Neither. Actually he's a merchant... Selling fourth time a game concept and his name for tens of dollars every box.

Velazquez had a grat studio, as well many, many others. The Rolling Stones make huge money, Lucien Freud is a rich man...
I can't make enough money with my art, but I will not deny the merit of who does... [/QUOTE]


Yes, and Samuel Johnson wrote 'Rasselas' to be able to pay for his mother's funeral, and Shakespeare and Dickens were both working artists hoping to earn money from their writings.

I see nothing wrong in artists earning a living.

[Aro]

@molly

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Aro
@molly

Aro

Brigadeiros

Santos coffee

[Adm.Naismith]

Art or/and money?

Originally posted by molly bloom
I see nothing wrong in artists earning a living.

Well, me neither. I was joking, as my smilies testify.

That said, IMHO if your main activity change from "creating" art to "producing" or "selling" art, that's not an artist title anymore.
Shakespeare wrote a lot, also for earning a live, but he kept writing. If you were a great Admiral, then you retire and move to politic arena, you became an ex-Admiral (former Admiral)l, AFAIK.

[Aro]

molly, do you know "Brigadeiros"?

[Addled Platypus]

so there could/should be improvements like:

concert hall
school of art
dance hall

to help increase the odds of great pepole we are talking about

[Jaybe]

Where does Sid fit in?

I would say he is an artist (or is that Soren?). The merchant is the corporate publisher Take 2 Interactive who is fronting the money to Firaxis.

Just as with composers of the past who were backed by wealthy patrons.

[Xorbon]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
so there could/should be improvements like:

concert hall
school of art
dance hall

to help increase the odds of great pepole we are talking about

And temples, cathedrals, shrines for great prophets.
Libraries, universities, research labs for great scientists.
Marketplaces, banks, and stock exchanges for great merchants.

But what improvement(s) could/should increase the odds of a great engineer appearing?

[Ecthy]

Defoe wrote his most famous novel so he could get his daughters married, but then the arty ones among you will probably call it blech.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
so there could/should be improvements like:

concert hall
school of art
dance hall

to help increase the odds of great pepole we are talking about

don't forget:

crack house
basement hallucinogen lab

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Aro
molly, do you know "Brigadeiros"?

Oh yes, yum yum.


I spent the eve of the millennium at a Brazilian party overlooking the Thames and witha view of the Dome in Greenwich, and we had a Brazilian barbecue, caipirinha and cachaca were served, there was Brazilian music and despite the winter weather, you could almost imagine yourself in Recife or Sao Paulo.


My friend from Sao Paulo, as well as playing the harpsichord and lecturing on Baroque music and dance and theatre makes killer brigadeiros- a moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.


And I do love mellow Brazilian coffees- although I usually have a mixture of Santos with Java.


Brazil

Villa-Lobos

Astrud Gilberto


Xuxa

[Aro]

I love Brigadeiros, too.
But I dont drink coffe anymore, since I quit cigarettes...

Btw, are you a musician? I mean, your knowledge and point of views about art is not so common...

[Ecthy]

Military leaders for the Germans: Wallenstein, Blücher, Moltke, Manstein/Guderian/some WWII guy

Scientists: Heisenberg, Schrödinger, Einstein, Koch, Haber

Artists: Beethoven, Bach, Dürer, you tell me

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Aro
I love Brigadeiros, too.
But I dont drink coffe anymore, since I quit cigarettes...

Btw, are you a musician? I mean, your knowledge and point of views about art is not so common...

Not a musician, but I love music. I educated myself about art from an early age, but then I think if you're brought up a Catholic you get an unfair head start on many other people.


But then the Lutherans get Bach, the Muslims get Behzad, the Hindus have Khajuraho, et cetera, so it kind of all evens out in the end.

Artists: Beethoven, Bach, Dürer, you tell me

My favourites include the Cranachs, Hans Baldung Grien, Albrecht Altdorfer, Max Ernst, I suppose you could include Holbein and Klee (Germanic, if not echt German), Grosz, Franz Marc, Kathe Kollwitz- oh, and a failed painter from Linz...

[Aro]

Originally posted by molly bloom
.......
oh, and a failed painter from Linz...