Unique Units

[Aro]

Originally posted by Xorbon


Are civ traits still in the game? I've seen no mention of them. I figured they have been replaced by leader personality traits.

You figured right. There's no civ traits.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Xorbon
Are civ traits still in the game? I've seen no mention of them. I figured they have been replaced by leader personality traits.

Same thing, pretty much, except the slight twist that multiple sets of traits can be associated with the same UU.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Xorbon


Are civ traits still in the game? I've seen no mention of them. I figured they have been replaced by leader personality traits.

At first glance I'd say that's a pity. I'd say the civ traits were one of the high points in Civ3. However I'll not cry too much until I see what replaces them and how it works.

[Kuciwalker]

Lancer - they're in Civ 4, just in the form of "leader traits". The slight difference is that a civ can have a choice between two different sets of traits based on the choice of leaders (for those civs that have two leaders).

[Lancer]

Well that sounds interesting. I wonder why they changed over? Do they believe that peoples don't have traits, just people? If so, blah. Still, who cares as long as it works in the game.

[binTravkin]

"Sikh Warrior" isn't really sensible as a unit, as there weren't specific units of Sikhs trained in some Sikh-specific fashion. The Sikhs have a long and distinguished martial history, but that's not the same thing.

If you think this way, cossacks also don't count as they were not any kind of "troops".
They were simply the steppe dwellers of southern Ukraine - their only duty to country was to fight turks and their allies in the south.

Iroquis' riders also don't count then as they were simply grown-up Iroquis' males.

[Lancer]

That's a great pic you're using for your avatar binTravkin.

[binTravkin]

That's a great pic you're using for your avatar binTravkin.

Thanks. It's me there..

You should be able to see my temper/behaviour/nature from the pic..

[Lancer]

It is the single most expressive baby pic I've ever seen. You were so cuuuute.

Weight of the world though..

[binTravkin]

You were so cuuuute.

And I always tought I was just sooo fat and unproportional as a baby..

[Lancer]

Originally posted by binTravkin


And I always tought I was just sooo fat and unproportional as a baby..

That's what I meant by 'weight of the world'.

You look like Churchill pouring over a map. "Damnit Bismark, where are you?!?

[Impaler[WrG]]

EUREKA!!!!!

UNIQUE PROMOTIONS

Give each Civilization a Unize type of Promotion, various limitations might apply to what kind of unit it can be attacked too ofcorse and it shouldnt be rediculusly powerfull just more unique and flavorfull then the "generic" Promotions.

For Example The English could have an extra level of "Sea Movment" beyond what other Civs can get. The Japanese have a "Bushido" ability that can be applied to certain Infantry units and nutralizes Enemy Promotions or a "Kamakaki" ability which should be rather self explamitory.

Oh and just incase someone else already had this idea, I apologize I didn't read most of the thread.

[binTravkin]

Good idea indeed!

[sophist]

Originally posted by binTravkin
If you think this way, cossacks also don't count as they were not any kind of "troops".

The Cossacks were often deployed as a distinct unit of the army. They weren't individuals distributed throughout the Russian army. They were also often cavalry. AFAIK, though, Sikhs served in the main body of the army alongside non-Sikhs in whatever capacity was needed.

Originally posted by binTravkin

Iroquis' riders also don't count then as they were simply grown-up Iroquis' males.

That one's a stretch, then. Sometimes, you just have to make something up even if it doesn't fit. There's no need to do that with the Indians, though; there are lots of candidates for a UU without having to select something that doesn't fit well like "Sikh warrior."

[Last Conformist]

Cossacks were usually employed as light cavalry, and they had their own separate units up to division level during the late Tsardom.