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  • What's with the bear, lion, wolf, etc. icons I saw on that unit civilopedia screenshot?
    Let Them Eat Cake

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    • Early barbarians.

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      • I don;t get how multiple units will be represented on a given tile... is there a screenshot of that somewhere?
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        Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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        • Originally posted by Theseus
          I don;t get how multiple units will be represented on a given tile... is there a screenshot of that somewhere?
          I would imagine the same way as before - with only the one "top" unit representing the whole stack. Although seeing a mob created by 20 units might be quite a sight.

          Which makes me wonder if there even will be stacks of 20 units around... One of the interviews, IIRC, said something like this on promotions: moving hundreds of identical units around the map is not fun, moving one hundred unique units is fun. So that seems to hint your armies will be far smaller than before, due to the use of promotions to make the units stronger and diversify the army.
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          • /me scraps Theuseus from the suspected Beta-list.

            You didn't see the videos T-man?
            4 HP = 4 units (on the same tile)
            3 HP = 3 units
            1HP = 1 unit
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            • Originally posted by alva
              You didn't see the videos T-man?
              4 HP = 4 units (on the same tile)
              3 HP = 3 units
              1HP = 1 unit
              Err, it's not really 4 units for 4 HP -- it's four guys representing the same unit. I believe he was asking like suppose you have a swordsman and an archer on the same tile, what'd you see then?
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              • He could be faking

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                • GamesFirst! article mentioned something I saw for the first time

                  "he said that you must plant different types of crops in order for your society to flourish. If you keep planting the same thing in the ground, your people will get sick and work slower"



                  was this mentioned earlier at any point?

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                  • Originally posted by LaRusso
                    GamesFirst! article mentioned something I saw for the first time

                    "he said that you must plant different types of crops in order for your society to flourish. If you keep planting the same thing in the ground, your people will get sick and work slower"



                    was this mentioned earlier at any point?
                    Yeah, it was sort of in the video interview... Soren said that it would be beneficial to trade foodstuffs between cities/civs, like corn for wheat.

                    Still don't get multiple units, alva be damned.
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                    • Originally posted by vovan
                      Which makes me wonder if there even will be stacks of 20 units around... One of the interviews, IIRC, said something like this on promotions: moving hundreds of identical units around the map is not fun, moving one hundred unique units is fun. So that seems to hint your armies will be far smaller than before, due to the use of promotions to make the units stronger and diversify the army.
                      Face it, moving massive amounts of units, be they the same type, or unique, is not fun. It would be fine if the tools are there to allow the player to efficiently move them with minimum mouse clicking (i.e. locking group commands, a grouping command that is not merely tied into unit type and the ability to maintain that locked grouping from turn to turn)

                      If there are less total number of units in the game, this would greatly help make single-unit vs single-unit combat tolerable. My assumption is that unit costs and upkeep may be made higher to keep those numbers down.

                      However, having more total number of units in the game does help the AI be more competitive
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                      • Originally posted by vovan


                        Err, it's not really 4 units for 4 HP -- it's four guys representing the same unit. * snip *
                        That's what I meant, shouldn't have used the word unit though, that did make it somewhat confusing.
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                        • Hey, CIV made [i]Time[/ i] magazine this week, p. 82 "Hot new games"

                          "Religion has a starring role in Sid Meier's latest (for PC), in which you try to convert your neighbors-or rip them to pieces in bloody, crusading wars."



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                          • Much like my new sig from CivAnon, or for that matter the PTWDG2:

                            Cake... or Death.

                            [Edit: For non-Eddie Izzard fans (otherwisde known as heathen philistine scum), the cake or death bit is actually all about religion.]

                            [Edit2: Where's Arrian when I need him? ]
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                            • Hasn't been around since februari.
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                              Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                              • Ah, so we can conclude that Arrian is one of the 60
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