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  • #46
    finally I can see my fascist buddhist empire emerging

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    • #47
      If you're still out there Soren, thank you VERY MUCH for answering my concerns about combat-you have TRULY put my fears to rest-at least for the time being !
      Whilst you're in the neighbourhood, though, would you be at all interested in sharing a little info about religion?
      I was genuinely hoping for an incredibly flexible Religion System, where you could get-and name-your own 'Generic' religion, then attempt to 'spread the word' about your faith to other nations, whilst similarly having to deal with converts to other faiths-within your borders-and sectarianism within your religious system.
      How much of what I just described will actually be a part of Religion in Civ4? Enquiring minds want to know !

      Yours,
      Aussie_Lurker.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Atahualpa
        finally I can see my fascist buddhist empire emerging
        be free

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        • #49
          Locutus,

          To precise the definition of atheism, it is not the lack of a religion, yet it is the disbelief in a god or gods. For example, Siddhartha Gautama (sp?) (Buddha) could be considered an atheist to a certain extent, but does that mean he does not believe in a particular religion? At any rate, though, our discussion on atheism is purely semantics and not necessary to further it.

          I agree from a gameplay point of view each Civ should not start off with a religion, albeit historically inaccurate.
          Well, it is rather obvious the list of choices of religions is endless, but that depends how specific you want to get. I believe the list of religions may be related to the list of Civs in that it will already be predertimened which religion type a Civ will become. Accordingly, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism, and Animism could possibly under a big generalization represent all 19 Civs. Atheism could be the 7th religion type (under the pretense of game terms), but as you pointed out and as I have as well in the religions thread there are many other viable choices. For one could be pantheism, which I believe is very closely related to the Shinto belief system in Japan.
          However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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          • #50
            Ahhh, religion. Ill start to clean my swords and mounting my horses for the Christian crusades that are coming...
            Owww, I'm so cute! ^_^

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            • #51
              Originally posted by GAZ082
              Ahhh, religion. Ill start to clean my swords and mounting my horses for the Christian crusades that are coming...
              Going to see Kingdom of Heaven? Might get you ready for your 'Civ Christian crusades.'
              However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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              • #52
                Aye!
                Owww, I'm so cute! ^_^

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                • #53
                  Re: PC Zone preview -lots of new info

                  Governments
                  No set government styles
                  Can choose attitude on such items as free markets, environment,slavery, conscription, emancipation
                  "As far as general advice on mod-making: Go slow as far as adding new things to the game until you have the basic game all smoothed out ... Make sure the things you change are really imbalances and not just something that doesn't fit with your particular style of play." - WesW

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                  • #54
                    I dont mind taking out the last 150 turns. For SP, these last 150 turns are simply a milk fest. Most MP advance to fast tech wise for this date to be a factor either. I dont know if i like the removal or government per se, Al though i guess they will be represented by the other choices you make.
                    Citizen of the Apolyton team in the ISDG
                    Currently known as Senor Rubris in the PTW DG team

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                    • #55
                      In SP, if the game is paced properly, the modern epoch can be some of the most fun time. They don't need to repeat the industrial-age tedium as in Civ3, but there's no reason to cut the game down. Instead, every turn of it should be made fun.
                      Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
                      Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
                      I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

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                      • #56
                        CiverDan: When I play Civ3, I always try to not wage mcuh war before I get tanks. The turn lenght at the end of the game is hopeless, but the game's still fun. Re: the government, you obviosuly never played SMAC? I think we can expect that in a improved and more fitting(to Civ) way in cIV.
                        Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                        I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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                        • #57
                          Sounds great so far. I've got a question concerning MP.

                          Will we be able to go from a real time MP game to PBEM and vice versa? This would be a huge benefit to PBEMer. Get the first few turns done fast and then go to turn based PBEM.

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                          • #58
                            Bahai is classical? It's pretty young compared to other religions. When I went to school, I didn't even know it existed.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by SirOsis
                              Sounds great so far. I've got a question concerning MP.

                              Will we be able to go from a real time MP game to PBEM and vice versa?


                              I'm crossing my fingers, toes, arms, legs, eyes, and anything else I can find to cross, that the answer to that is yes!!!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by TechWins
                                At any rate, though, our discussion on atheism is purely semantics and not necessary to further it.

                                I agree from a gameplay point of view each Civ should not start off with a religion, albeit historically inaccurate.

                                Well, it is rather obvious the list of choices of religions is endless, but that depends how specific you want to get. I believe the list of religions may be related to the list of Civs in that it will already be predertimened which religion type a Civ will become. Accordingly, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism, and Animism could possibly under a big generalization represent all 19 Civs. Atheism could be the 7th religion type (under the pretense of game terms)...
                                I agree with you: we can spend months debating about the correct definition and effects of religions/believs, but that's already better managed at different places, on more deep level and with higher results.
                                IMHO, as you suggested, we should keep considering if this "culture effect" can add more benefit for the game point of view than the Civ III culture / SMAC social model. I hope so.
                                "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
                                - Admiral Naismith

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