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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


    I liked the music for the palace building scene in Civ 1.

    Was that the Battle Hymn of the Republic? I seem to remember something to that effect.
    In Civ1, every civilization had an "anthem"--a piece of music that was played at significant events such as when you got a palace upgrade or discovered a new tech advance. The "Battle Hymn of the Republic" was the "anthem" for the American civilization.

    That said, I would like to see anthems brought back. It gave the civilizations some nice flavoring when each one had a distinctive bit of music to go with it.
    Those who live by the sword...get shot by those who live by the gun.

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    • #47
      YES!!!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by CyberShy
        But only if they use the Russian theme from Civ1.


        Man, I can't remember what it was, but I die to hear it again. any midi's somewhere online?
        Search "Song of the Volga Boatman"
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #49
          You can download Volga Boatmen's Song from here:

          Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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          • #50
            Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.



            Originally posted by AustralianJeremy
            I visited the civ4 forum specifically to request that they put the movies back in.

            There was a doco on the hoover dam on tele tonight, and it just reminded me fondly of the feeling of history and wonder the old wonder movies gave me.

            I think they're very important in Civ. The wonders in SMAC gave a real sense to the experience which does draw me back. In Civ2 they gave a sense of real history which ... well, it's one of the things which made the game so special. It's not just an esoteric wargame, it's a game in which you explore real human history.

            PLEASE put them back in Firaxis. The lack of them in civ3 really is one of the reasons I prefer civ2 and SMAC.
            Maybe I'm in the minority, but I prefer gameplay over a moving picture I see 2 times. Or at the very least, spend more time on things I have to stare at all the time, ala units or terrain.

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            • #51
              What about background music? I don't know about anyone else, but I turn it off eventually. Should the game leave it out?

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              • #52
                I think what many people are not realising is that Civ2 was a great game because it catered to all types: hard-core strategy types, SimCity eye-candy types, historical simulation types...heck, even role-playing types. It was an ensemble production.

                By cutting out all the "bells and whistles" you cut out a big portion of your fan base. I know many people who played Civ2 just to get the palace looking spiffy, or to build up an impressive city view. What about the Civilopedia descriptions, should they go too? They certainly require a non-trivial part of the budget (consider all the different language versions). What about animations and leaderheads? And music?

                It's not a stretch to claim that most of the people posting on this forum are "serious" Civ players; most casual players do not spend hours a week reading a fan forum. Serious players tend to like game mechanics; casual players the fluff (obviously an oversimplification).

                It seems to me that an all-around great Civ game would include Wonder movies, for those types that care about that kind of stuff (and they exist: SMAC and Civ2 fans remisnisce about Wonder movies all the time). I believe it would hurt the game in the long run if all of Civ4's budget went into a super-duper AI. Sounds silly to all of us hardcore strategy types, but it's true.

                End of rant.
                And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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                • #53
                  Voted no. They are fun to watch 2-3 times, but who cares after that. They just get annoying after that and are a waste of programming time, developer resources, and space on my HD.
                  Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

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                  • #54
                    What he said.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Brent
                      What about background music? I don't know about anyone else, but I turn it off eventually. Should the game leave it out?
                      I turned it off too. If it would help improve the rest of the game, then sure, don't bother with it (unless it's quite good, but this ain't a movie or TV series).

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                      • #56
                        Not worth the effort. Give me a better city view screen though, not buildings haphazardly stacked on a 2d image.

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                        • #57
                          I voted No.

                          Takes up space in the game that is already big enough, for CIV3 I already had to delete some porn to make room for it

                          Takes up too much time, both while gaming and for the programmers who should be working on more important things (like the AI you all complain about). I hate it when I build a wonder, and my 486 grinds and whizzes for a stupid little clip that I have already seen 100 times before.

                          Adds nothing to the game. I believe the reason they took out of 3 was because made the feel of the game too disjointed, and I agree. I like to have a consistant flow throughout the course of the game.

                          Give me a better city view screen though, not buildings haphazardly stacked on a 2d image.
                          (holy crap, I agreed with a Moron )
                          Monkey!!!

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                          • #58
                            @ Japher

                            I voted Yes. I think Dominae made a lot of good points in his post above. The widest appeal attracts the most buyers and the game has something for everyone. Civ 2 had presence!
                            Haven't been here for ages....

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                            • #59
                              Again,its the practicality question,i want wonder movies,yes,but if that means less work on the other aspects of the game i guess i can live without them
                              Devout Believer of the Invisible Pink unicorn

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                              • #60
                                Well, the people doing Wonder Movies won't be working on AI or other game mechanic programming. Rather they'll probably the same sort that does unit graphics and whatnot.

                                Personally, I've always liked the Wonder Movies, it gives you a sense of achievement and accomplishment. It helps make the wonders seem as significant as they are.

                                -Drachasor
                                "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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