Can't make monasteries permanent?

[seebs]

I am trying an experiment, which is removing obsolescence from the game. All buildings have their effects permanently.

This has worked for ALMOST everything. It does not work for monasteries. I have verified that all seven of the monasteries list:

<ObsoleteTech>NONE</ObsoleteTech>

However, they are still made obsolete! Or at least, once I get Scientific Method, I can't build any more. The tech info for scientific method doesn't suggest anything special there. Is this one hardcoded or something?

[MattPilot]

You sure its because of scientific method and not because you switched to free religion?

[Itsatrap]

Try changing it in the "CIV4SpecialBuildingInfos.xml" file.

- Alan

[seebs]

The CIV4SpecialBuildingInfos.xml file fixed the problem of Scientific Method being described as disabling monastaries, but I still can't build them. Maybe I have to go back to paganism to build monastaries? (I have no state religion.)

Without mods, how are you supposed to build missionaries without monastaries available?

[seebs]

Hmm. Nope, adopting other civics doesn't seem to have any effect; I just can't put monastaries on the list.

But it could be, I suppose, that "obselete" is a permanent effect, even if you change the XML files later, those items are still off the build list.

[Itsatrap]

Originally posted by seebs Without mods, how are you supposed to build missionaries without monastaries available?

You can always build missionaries with the "Organized Religion" civic.

- Alan

[seebs]

What I'm looking for is a way to do a "free religion" society in which all 7 religions can theoretically be building missionaries and sending them around. It's certainly possible in the world I live in, and I see no reason it shouldn't be possible in Civ.

[eljeffe]

Without mods, how are you supposed to build missionaries without monastaries available?

You can still build missionaries from cities that had monastaries even when they are obsolete. I just make a point of building at least one monastary for every religion I have. You can only have three missionaries at a time for any one religion, so it's never like you need more than a couple of cities prodicing them anyway.

[seebs]

BTW, I confirmed: In a new game, that fix works. The key is that once something "obsoletes" a unit, it's permanently removed from the tech tree even if you later change the rules!