Fixes\Patch Mod

[maxpublic]

Originally posted by Dale


What you suggested are not bugs (which this mod will attempt to fix). What you suggested are changes to components which are already working as designed.

What the hell does that matter? The game could be 'designed' to make fart noises every time you press "end turn", but that doesn't mean it was a good decision.

Max

[johnmcd]

Originally posted by maxpublic


What the hell does that matter? The game could be 'designed' to make fart noises every time you press "end turn", but that doesn't mean it was a good decision.

Max

It matters because what is being attempted here are bug fixes, not gameplay improvements. There are plenty other threads discussing gameplay improvements.

[Saurus]

Re: Patches or Fixes

Originally posted by Aerion

2 - I could not figure out how to trade with another european colony or european power.

Send over a wagon train to an European colony and start trading. I have done this so this is possible.

You can, however, only trade gold for resources or resources for gold ... no resource/resource trading witch can be annoying since A.I do not seem to have a lot of cash most of the time.

[Dale]

Originally posted by maxpublic


What the hell does that matter? The game could be 'designed' to make fart noises every time you press "end turn", but that doesn't mean it was a good decision.

Max

It matters because this is a PATCH. Patches fix bugs. Mods change the design.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Dale


It matters because this is a PATCH. Patches fix bugs. Mods change the design.

Thanks for the hardwork Dale and Snoopy369

I will probably wait a little longer before installing until you guys get what you feel is a good "build" i.e. repair of bugs

I trust you that much, have tasted of your plate of work before, its well worth skipping entrees' to get to the main course


Gramps

[AgentTBC]

Do you guys consider the very small initial starting size of the REF to be a design decision or to rise to the level of a bug? I was hoping you'd make it a lot higher in your patch but if it's not considered a bug, I will have to try to make it bigger myself

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by AgentTBC
Do you guys consider the very small initial starting size of the REF to be a design decision or to rise to the level of a bug? I was hoping you'd make it a lot higher in your patch but if it's not considered a bug, I will have to try to make it bigger myself

REF???

[Dale]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


REF???

Royal Expeditionary Forces (King's army)

[Dale]

Originally posted by AgentTBC
Do you guys consider the very small initial starting size of the REF to be a design decision or to rise to the level of a bug? I was hoping you'd make it a lot higher in your patch but if it's not considered a bug, I will have to try to make it bigger myself

I don't know how Snoopy feels, but I don't consider it a bug.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Dale


Royal Expeditionary Forces (King's army)

Thanks!

[maxpublic]

Originally posted by Dale


It matters because this is a PATCH. Patches fix bugs. Mods change the design.

Then I guess we'll have to wait for some other mod to patch the underlying, fundamental bugs of the game - i.e., that its design is flawed in too many ways to count.

Until then, it's back to EU3.

Max

[peege]

In MP mode, when loading a game, the players who didn't host the game can have several specialists get shuffled in the cities from their saved location.

It will prompt with, "What do you want your "expert x x" to be doing in X city?" But with no option to look in the city.

[Dale]

Originally posted by maxpublic


Then I guess we'll have to wait for some other mod to patch the underlying, fundamental bugs of the game - i.e., that its design is flawed in too many ways to count.

Until then, it's back to EU3.

Max

Please explain what has you so worked up. I've looked through this entire thread and cannot find where you originally quoted me, and what request I was responding to.

Thanks

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Dale


I don't know how Snoopy feels, but I don't consider it a bug.

I've been giving this a lot of thought, actually ... I think there are good reasons to increase it, but there are equally good reasons not to increase it. The problem is that while a lot of people like the idea of requiring more cities to win, there are some equally valuable reasons to not require more cities to win...

It certainly could go into the handicap xml files, and I would think it could be something driven by the handicap; I am not entirely sure it should be substantially higher than it is now, however, for most difficulty levels. This is a complexity that I think is more involved than it appears, unfortunately, and there may not be a solution that makes everyone happy (as with most balance questions...)

[AgentTBC]

Is it an easy thing or a difficult thing to mod it to make the initial REF larger? As I posted elsewhere, I think I would be pretty much happy with the game if the REF were larger initially (such that you couldn't win the revolution with virtually no army as you can now) and if the other powers were more aggressive. If I could make the REF bigger myself, that would be half the battle.