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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
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    Except no one has the balls to say there's nothing wrong with outsourcing.
    This guy got close:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFun View Post
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    From your own link:
    Business professors and venture capital experts have questioned what operational or managerial control, if any, Romney would have had over DDi.

    "Once he left active management of the company, whatever happens after that, he's an investor, or at most a silent partner," Howard Anderson, a professor at MIT's Sloan School of Management, told FactCheck.org back in January 2012.
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    I thought that Romney was the owner of Bain? If that's true he really can't disconnect himself from what his company did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
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    I thought that Romney was the owner of Bain? If that's true he really can't disconnect himself from what his company did.
    Oh for the love of ... Will you people learn to ****ing read?

    "Once he left active management of the company, whatever happens after that, he's an investor, or at most a silent partner," Howard Anderson, a professor at MIT's Sloan School of Management, told FactCheck.org back in January 2012.
    I mean seriosuly if you don't want to vote for the man, that's fine. However, to keep harping on a discredited line of attack (by independent fact checkers) only serves to make you look silly.
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    Sarah Palin was a better VP choice than Romney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mad Monk View Post
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    From your own link:


    Why are you doing this to yourself?

    More importantly, why are you doing this to me?
    That's one quote. It's no stronger than what MrFun posted. At this point, stop trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoDoc View Post
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    Oh for the love of ... Will you people learn to ****ing read?



    I mean seriosuly if you don't want to vote for the man, that's fine. However, to keep harping on a discredited line of attack (by independent fact checkers) only serves to make you look silly.
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    Anyway, Obama can pretty much say whatever he wants about Romney at this point and should because:

    1. Romney has demonstrated that he is wholly incapable of mounting an effective response.

    2. It distracts from the economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
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    This depends on whether I am even in D.C. whenever it is (25th? 28th?)

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    New evidence has come to light that the same people who faked Obama's birth certificate in 1961 for the purpose of getting him elected president in 2008 also created the Batman villain Bane in 1993 for the purpose of getting Obama reelected in 2012. Such masterful villainy!

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    Have you heard this new movie, the Batman movie, what is it, The Dark Knight Lights Up or whatever the name is. That's right, Dark Knight Rises. Lights Up, same thing. Do you know the name of the villain in this movie? Bane. The villain in The Dark Knight Rises is named Bane, B-a-n-e. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran and around which there's now this make-believe controversy? Bain. The movie has been in the works for a long time. The release date's been known, summer 2012 for a long time. Do you think that it is accidental that the name of the really vicious fire breathing four eyed whatever it is villain in this movie is named Bane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoDoc View Post
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    Oh for the love of ... Will you people learn to ****ing read?



    I mean seriosuly if you don't want to vote for the man, that's fine. However, to keep harping on a discredited line of attack (by independent fact checkers) only serves to make you look silly.
    If Romney was the sole or primary owner of Bain though then he can't escape his liability for its actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorizael View Post
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    New evidence has come to light that the same people who faked Obama's birth certificate in 1961 for the purpose of getting him elected president in 2008 also created the Batman villain Bane in 1993 for the purpose of getting Obama reelected in 2012. Such masterful villainy!
    Which is funny as it looks like Batman is fighting Occupy Wall Street in this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoDoc View Post
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    Which is funny as it looks like Batman is fighting Occupy Wall Street in this one.
    Yes, that must be it. And Batman is Romney, since they're both rich and insane. And Batman has a love/hate relationship with villain/love-interest Catwoman, just like Romney has a love/hate relationship with Occupy Wall Street supporter... Susan Sarandon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
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    Except no one has the balls to say there's nothing wrong with outsourcing.
    There's nothing wrong with removing jobs from America? How does removing jobs from America help in our economic recovery?
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    Just for the record. Do you have any proof that every single job that is removed from America hurts the recovery?
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    I'm curious as to whether MrFun thinks nothing should be imported either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFun View Post
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    There's nothing wrong with removing jobs from America? How does removing jobs from America help in our economic recovery?
    If outsourcing 100 nonproductive nonadvantageous jobs at a distressed firm allows the continued employment of 1000 others then ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFun View Post
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    There's nothing wrong with removing jobs from America? How does removing jobs from America help in our economic recovery?
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    I'm in a quandary. Should we go with..

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    Mitt Romney Taxes For 2010 Not Fully Disclosed

    WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney has not released his full tax records from 2010, including key documentation connected to his Swiss bank account.

    Although President Barack Obama and an increasing number of Republican politicians have called on Romney to release tax returns from years prior to 2010, the public criticism has so far failed to note that Romney has not disclosed all of his tax documents for 2010 itself -- the only year for which the GOP presidential nominee has presented any final tax forms.

    Romney released his 2010 tax return in January of this year, a document that first informed voters about the existence of his Swiss bank account and financial activities in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands. But people who own foreign bank accounts are required to file a separate document with the IRS that provides additional details on such overseas bank holdings, and Romney has not released that form to the public.
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    Or..

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    Mitt Romney: Cayman Islands Accounts Used By Foreign Investors To 'Not Be Subject To' U.S. Taxes

    WASHINGTON -- Some tax experts are alarmed by Mitt Romney's apparent admission that Bain Capital set up offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands to help wealthy investors avoid paying U.S. taxes.

    During an interview with the National Review's Robert Costa, Romney said that offshore sub-companies in the Cayman Islands help foreign investors avoid paying taxes on investments in the United States. Bain Capital currently has 138 such sub-companies headquartered in the Cayman Islands.

    "The so-called offshore account in the Cayman Islands, for instance, is an account established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in U.S. enterprises and not be subject to taxes outside of their own jurisdiction," Romney said. "So in many instances, the investments in something of that nature are brought back into the United States. The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe. Sometimes a foreign entity is formed to allow foreign investors to invest in the United States, which may well be the case with the entities that Democrats are describing as foreign accounts."

    By taxes "outside of their own jurisdiction," Romney is referring to taxes imposed by the U.S. government.

    "He's basically admitting here that the Bain funds are set up in the Cayman Islands to help people avoid tax," said Rebecca Wilkins, senior counsel for federal tax policy at Citizens for Tax Justice, a nonprofit tax reform group. "If you want to cheat on your taxes, boy, they're making it really easy."
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    I just don't know, the poor guy is just putting up too many targets to hit. Anyone have any preference?

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    I'm curious as to whether MrFun thinks nothing should be imported either.
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    I just don't know, the poor guy is just putting up too many targets to hit. Anyone have any preference?
    What's wrong with off shore banking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoDoc View Post
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    What's wrong with off shore banking?
    Completely depends what you use it for. If you use it to avoid tax, or to help your investors avoid tax, then those would generally be considered unpopular decisions for a presidential candidate to be making.

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    Avoiding taxes is a great American tradition. It's evading taxes that gets to be a problem.
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    If its a great American tradition then he should be proud to announce he's been doing that then (if that is what he's been doing).

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    So you don't know if he was doing that or not?
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    I won't be happy until Mitt releases his long-form tax certificate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
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    Completely depends what you use it for. If you use it to avoid tax, or to help your investors avoid tax, then those would generally be considered unpopular decisions for a presidential candidate to be making.
    It's not so much about that. It's about the campaign that Mitt is running. He's telling us he's not one of "them," but is hiding something that may likely show that he is.
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    It's not so much about that. It's about the campaign that Mitt is running. He's telling us he's not one of "them," but is hiding something that may likely show that he is.
    I thought so too originally, but I'm starting to wonder if there might be something else behind it all. There's a rumour going around about an IRS amnesty back in 2009, but it'll probably turn out to be bullshit to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaShi View Post
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    I won't be happy until Mitt releases his long-form tax certificate.
    I presume you also won't be happy until Obama releases the Fast and Furious documents.

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    ...and his school records.
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