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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Plenty of honest men and women have gotten themselves into trouble by defending themselves and their families against home invaders through the use of deadly force. Why? Because government doesn't protect the honest.

    How exactly does the state protect me from getting murdered or killed? Someone seeing me and calling 911 and hopefully getting to the hospital before I expire?
    Plenty of people get charged with murder and even face the death penalty for their crimes. There's a significant difference in the safety people have in the US and the safety people have in Mexico, in part because the US has a much more effective government. The state deters people from killing you by threatening to catch killers and put them in prison or execute them. And in the Texas you are in fact allowed to use lethal force in self defense if someone invades your home.

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    Ben gets another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Miller View Post
    It's nice to be able to demonize your opponents.

    If this were the case, then why does there exist people like myself who believes the hypothetical is true, does not support gay marriage based on it somehow being discriminatory not to allow a man to marry another man, and yet still be in favor due to the social benefits.

    I wonder what % of the those who are in favor of gay marriage are in favor for reasons other than thinking that it would be discriminatory not to allow a man to marry another man...

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    Frankly, if you are for gay marriage because being against gay marriage is "discrimination", you're an idiot. You should be for gay marriage because it makes lots of people happy and costs nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
    Considering Leviticus appears to be against same sex relationships in general, I'm guessing marriage would be right out as well.
    And yet I'm pretty sure it's not explicitly proscribed because the very phrase "same-sex marriage" would have been considered a contradiction in terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    Frankly, if you are for gay marriage because being against gay marriage is "discrimination", you're an idiot. You should be for gay marriage because it makes lots of people happy and costs nothing.
    You should be against discrimination because it's unfair and makes a lot of people unhappy for no purpose. That's not really something that should have to be explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    Frankly, if you are for gay marriage because being against gay marriage is "discrimination", you're an idiot. You should be for gay marriage because it makes lots of people happy and costs nothing.
    Stop claiming this. Gay marriage upsets people too. More than it makes happy.

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    The difference is that gay marriage upsets people who are completely unaffected by gay marriage. It only upsets nosy, judgmental, backwards ****tards, who frankly deserve to be made upset, every second, every minute, every hour, every day of their pathetic, miserable little lives. **** every last one of them, forever and ever, amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    The difference is that gay marriage upsets people who are completely unaffected by gay marriage. It only upsets nosy, judgmental, backwards ****tards, who frankly deserve to be made upset, every second, every minute, every hour, every day of their pathetic, miserable little lives. **** every last one of them, forever and ever, amen.
    I get what you're saying, I'd just be a bit hesitant to damn people like Billy Graham for eternity. You should consider the possibility that they're just old and stuck in their ways. We're all gonna be that way at some point, which is a bit of a sobering thought.
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    Defending traditional marriage against gay marriage is kind of like standing on the walls of the Alamo with a rifle to fend off illegal immigrants. That fort was lost a long time ago, and the people we're scared of now have neither the desire nor the ability to do any more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    I get what you're saying, I'd just be a bit hesitant to damn people like Billy Graham for eternity. You should consider the possibility that they're just old and stuck in their ways. We're all gonna be that way at some point, which is a bit of a sobering thought.
    Believe it or not, non-bigoted old people who don't cling to old prejudices do exist. Being old is no excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    The difference is that gay marriage upsets people who are completely unaffected by gay marriage. It only upsets nosy, judgmental, backwards ****tards, who frankly deserve to be made upset, every second, every minute, every hour, every day of their pathetic, miserable little lives. **** every last one of them, forever and ever, amen.
    Sounds like you are the judgmental one.

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    Yes. I am prejudiced against people who are prejudiced. It is I who is the real monster.

    IT IS A CONUNDRUM.
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    There's nothing prejudiced or nosy about supporting a policy that does not directly affect you. For example, I support decreasing foreign aid, even though it hardly affects the deficit, much less me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    The difference is that gay marriage upsets people who are completely unaffected by gay marriage. It only upsets nosy, judgmental, backwards ****tards, who frankly deserve to be made upset, every second, every minute, every hour, every day of their pathetic, miserable little lives. **** every last one of them, forever and ever, amen.
    Also the upset people will forget about it pretty quickly.

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    And the gay people will grow bored of marriage, too.

    There's a lot to be said for the idea that large swaths of people actually like to feel discriminated against. It gives them something to be fired up about. They also like having an excuse to blame others for being 'down' in the world. Women are a good example of this, as are blacks and gays.

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    Someone is finally starting to recalibrate the Wiggy login, thank goodness.
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    Has there been a decade in the last 100 years where there hasn't been some major 'social equality' movement? Think about it. White males are finally having one.

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    Yes. Every day, my life is made harder and unfair simply by virtue of being a white male. If only I had been born black, my life would be so much easier.
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    You're not gay, so you do the next best thing to be a part of the movement: You feel deeply offended FOR gays.

    People need to take a deep breath and realize that been ornery all the time hurts the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
    You're not gay,
    That's where you're wrong, mon ami. Galnemer is a beard; it is okay, she's aware.
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    The real fun is in predicting the next big social movement.

    I suspect it will be Mormon polygamists trying to ride the gay pride wave. Or possibly Indians will team up with the elderly.

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    I have no problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
    The real fun is in predicting the next big social movement.

    I suspect it will be Mormon polygamists trying to ride the gay pride wave. Or possibly Indians will team up with the elderly.
    Potheads, hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    Yes. Every day, my life is made harder and unfair simply by virtue of being a white male. If only I had been born black, my life would be so much easier.
    You'd be a Harvard Medical School graduate if you were black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post


    You wouldn't, but the point is that you can. You have the right to marry a woman; it's your choice to exercise it.
    It's meaningless that I have the freedom/right to marry a woman. It would in no way be part of my own "pursuit of happiness."
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Oh joy! I have the freedom to marry a person I would never want to marry in the first place, because there is no mutual attraction, and no romantic love.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    I still don't understand then, how anti-miscegenation laws are discriminatory. And yes, I understand that Kuci and others are arguing that such laws were discriminatory because it refused recognition of interracial marriages that fit the traditional definition of heterosexual marriage. But I disagree with that "reasoning."

    As long as blacks were free to marry other blacks, where is the discrimination? If a black person was in love with a white person, and the two wanted to marry, anti-miscegenation laws did not deny that black person the right to marry. The black person simply had to marry another black person.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFun View Post
    It's meaningless that I have the freedom/right to marry a woman. It would in no way be part of my own "pursuit of happiness."
    Observation: the "pursuit of happiness" is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution.

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    So yeah, anti-miscegenation laws denied blacks and whites from entering into traditionally defined heterosexual marriage, but blacks were still free to marry other blacks.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    Observation: the "pursuit of happiness" is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution.
    I didn't say there was.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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