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    Destiny of Empires [Diplo Game] [Story Thread 6 - March 2011]

    This is the Story and Diplomacy Thread for the Diplo Game "Destiny of Empires" (DoE)

    The purpose of this thread is to post in-character story posts and diplomacy for this game. Please discuss all organizational aspects of this game the Organization Thread.
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    Viking A New Man

    Chutpa Matalin's empire in the start of his reign.

    In the year 1235, Quizco Matalin left the throne far stronger than he found it. His tight rein on power in the empire's domestic politics left the Tupancha uprising a diminishing threat to central authority. The expeditionary legions sent to assimilate the Kassites had returned, and were being further reinforced by legions sent from Talcho and Mancho. Their story of independence had only yet begun when Quizco stamped it out with the heavy heel of his Inca corn husk sandal.

    Quizco had also succeeded in raising the importance of internationalism and diplomacy. He initiated some important trade agreements that brought much profit to local metal and corn exporters, increasing the popularity of "foreignerism" in the empire. Still, there was much antipathy among the more conservative factions, but the Talcha and Matalin tended to find themselves wherever opportunity and profit showed themselves, and here it was to be found in trade and open borders.

    In Quizco's place came his grandson, Chutpa Matalin, the third and last of the middle Talchak emperors. He would reign for around 70 years. He was basically a carbon copy of his grandfather, and his policies would differ little. Just as prone to the construction of arms, the buildup of trade, and a somewhat hands-off approach to the expansionist tendencies of the various factions. He also proved happy to continue Quizco's heavy-handed approach towards the Tupancha. The empire would see the slow institutionalization of the law, moving further away from purely arbitrary and game-like absurdities as seen in the earlier part of the Empire, but still the law proved quite malleable and self-serving to entrenched interests.

    Militarism: Defensive
    Expansionism: Neutral
    Aggression: Neutral
    Diplomacy: Diplomatic
    Internal: Authoritarian
    Factional: Careerist
    Economic: Fascist

    Y'npazhak: 30% importance
    Malha: 35% importance
    Chuycocha: 15% importance
    Sulma: 20% importance
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    A new leader rises in India!

    After decades of studying science, philosophy and religion at the Delhi Academy, Ptolemy Vayabagaran's prominence spread from the intellectual circles around the libraries, monastaries and centres of learning to the people of Delhi as a whole. With great wisdom and knowledge of all the Indian faiths found in the city, Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, Vayabagaran was seen as a great religious and secular authority and as he travelled throughout India to seek further learning, many more came to respect and honor his wisdom. The Raja's of the great cities as well as the landowning nobles all found him a pure and pious soul and bestowed upon him the honor of Prophet of the Indias. Ptolemy declined the honor, but the people of Delhi flocked around the Academy and demanded that he be the leader mentioned by Siddhartas prophecy. His wisdom and popularity unmatched, he would fill the role of leader until it would become clear that another should take his place. The fates forced by men would if undesired be rejected by the gods, and as such, if Ptolemy was not beset by disaster, the gods would have shown their approval, fulfilling the prophecy.

    Ptolemy Vayabagaran meditated for many weeks on the matter, but found the reasoning of the commoners surprisingly pragmatic and wise, and chose reluctantly to lead India until such a time it would become clear that it was no longer prudent for him to do so.

    His first order was as follows:
    Official Notice to all Traders who pass through India
    As India is placed at the heart of the world, between the great empires of the east and the great empires of the west, any who wishes to pass through our lands must pay a toll. This includes traders from all parts of the world, China, Neandor, Japan, Arabia and all others. If open borders with India is desired then gold must be paid as a traders tax. Empires that have an open borders agreement with India must contact us within 3 years with an offer, lest their merchants be turned away from India. Payment can come in the form of resources, gold, mercenaries skilled in defence and other agreements.

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    Viking A New Man: Chullana Guacan

    In 1308, Quizco died of myseterious circumstances, and the throne passed from the Middle Talcho Emperors into the hands of the Middle Guacan Emperors. The first of these three was Chullana Gaucan, a prominent man in L'chulla. His family was one of the founders of Inca Gaucano, and were noted for their progressive bent. His father was the last regionator of Hazpak L'chulla, and was widely popular for reforming the local legal system towards something resembling a "rule of law rather than men". Chullana's brother was head of the regionate labor union at the time.

    Power shifted from the Old Coast to the Dark Territories peacefully. Many believe that this was due to Chullana's somewhat militaristic and aggressive approach to politics, which calmed Talcha and Mancha concerns over his otherwise radical politics. But the Old Coast was seeing slow growth, while the interior and New Coast were seeing a rebirth in their explosive growth. This was also a time of great culture, with the great "Epic of Kassito" and the "Epic of a Nation" both being completed. Riding on this surge of creativity, expansion, and youth, Chullana succeeded in doing for the Empire what his father did for L'chulla, and pushed through many legal reforms that laid the basis for the modern Inca legal system.

    Chullana also oversaw the construction of a great academy in L'chulla, Faraday's University. At first, its primary purpose was designing cages for radiant birds of the tropics, but in time its mission grew to understanding the secrets of engineering, finance, economics, and developing the basis of future liberal thought.

    Perhaps Chullana's most important accomplishment was the first step in expansion of the Empire beyond the shores of Incacona, into the wild continent of Australia, marking a new phase in the prominence and international role of Incacona.


    Militarism: Armorer
    Expansionism: Expansive
    Aggression: Offensive
    Diplomacy: Diplomatic
    Internal: Liberal
    Factional: Moderate
    Economic: Liberal

    Y'npazhak: 20% importance
    Malha: 30% importance
    Chuycocha: 25% importance
    Sulma: 25% importance

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    For centuries Israel had been isolated.
    Nobody cared about Israel. Israel didn't care about anybody.
    While the children of Israel continued to trade with all nations and increased their wealth, there was no central autority since Judge Gideon had died, centuries ago.

    The jewish faith had been spread to all Israelian cities and most christians had been persecuted out of Israel, apart from very small churches in most of the Israliean cities. A very small minority, except in Bethlehem, where recently a gigantic church had been built to remember the birth of the so called christ. A christian prophet came from the Neandors to erect the church all by himself. The wrath of G'd the Most High will be upon him.

    With the new Church of Nativity, christians from all over the world came to Bethlehem.
    Most jews had no problem gaining a lot of money from these blasphemic pilgrims. Eventhough they came to spit upon the name of the Most High, no one from Israel had a problem with milking every penny out of them.
    Israel became richer then ever.

    But all the pilgrims also made the Israelians aware of their position in this world.
    Isolated, alone, the only true followers of G'd. Outside the borders of Israel there were only christians and fake jews. Not to mention the heathens far away.

    Amram Gaon united all israelians again!
    The sanhedrin was elected again.
    It started to make plans to restore the dignity of G'd in this world.
    Two secret goals were agreed upon.
    Only after those two secret goals would have been met, Amram Gaon said, the promised Messiach could come and restore paradise on earth.


    Rabbi Amram Gaon


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    Treaty of East Indian Demarcation Signed


    The colonial empire of Neandor and the United Peoples of India have formally signed a pact acknowledging the rightful claims to the colonies that both have settled in the East Indies and to support each other against unlawful incursions or attacks upon said colonies. The treaty refers to colonial Neandorians in Western Australis, and Indian settlements on various islands in the region.

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    The Proclamation of Territorial Control

    By hereby settling the island of "New Zealand", hereafter to be named "New Caczcoynaco", the Inca lay claim to the entire island, as any attempt to settle the north will necessarily cause conflict with the Inca settlement, and will be seen by the Inca as a direct assault on the prosperity and security of its new settlers.

    The Inca further insist upon a zone control in the many island chains between this island and the Inca homeland. This territory is of no economic or productive value to anyone, and as such the Inca wish it to remain unsettled by others.

    Furthermore, to avoid future complications, no aggressive naval vessels or military troops are to pass within [10 tiles] of the Inca mainland coast on either side without prior approval. As there is little within [10 tiles] of the Inca coast, this should not prove problematic or excessive for any powers with peaceful intent. Special consideration will be given for inter-oceanic travel around the southern tip of Incaco, although the English have technical claims over this region as well, and as such maritime traffic along this corridor is not under the sole control of Incacona. Again, the Inca navy will assert the rights of Incacona for the security of the many people living on the continent Incaco.

    The Inca have no intentions of further expansion into other continents, or of war, and wish to remain peaceful participants in the growing global economy. Please do not infringe upon the territorial security of the Inca Empire, and we will not infringe on your own.



    Here is a map of Inca claims. Note that these claims are NOT exclusive to others' claims in respect to the Aztec and English (and Indians regarding their colony of Tasmania). The Inca have allowed the Leftsea region to stay under the control of more local powers.


    Signed,
    Sapa Chullana Guacan
    Sapa Chitcopi Incacona
    1333AD

    P.S. All powers are assumed to respect these claims unless otherwise disputed. Still, the Inca wish for formal, private acknowledgment of Inca claims as a legal formality.
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    India does not recognize the right of Inca or any other empire located on a completely different continent to settle lands in our region without first conferring with its local inhabitants.

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    English scientists have determined that the landmasses known as Australia, New Zealand, and the islands north of there exist on their own unique continent and have no more connection to the continent of Asia (and the people's of that continent) than to South America. The Inca have as much claim to these lands as India does.

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    At present, the Inca only wish to preserve the indigenous cultures of these three non-settlement islands from outside exploitation. Again, as there is not much use to these few islands, the Inca feel that anyone wishing to settle them does so simply as a sign of strategic aggression towards the Inca homeland. Such aggression will not be tolerated. It is unjust to the "Pacificans" who live there, to say the least.

    If the Indians have interests in any of these islands, and if they have peaceful intent, then discussing with the Inca their settlement should prove beneficial to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by India (DoE) View Post
    Treaty of East Indian Demarcation Signed


    The colonial empire of Neandor and the United Peoples of India have formally signed a pact acknowledging the rightful claims to the colonies that both have settled in the East Indies and to support each other against unlawful incursions or attacks upon said colonies. The treaty refers to colonial Neandorians in Western Australis, and Indian settlements on various islands in the region.
    Let it be known that the Neandor Line has negotiated long and hard with india and China before attempting any colonization in South East Australasia - a specific geographic region of Asia accessible by Galleys and log rafts.

    The history of the Damnanglais settlements, commencing with Carthage, is one of a total lack of consultation and dialog. Carthage was settled directly adjacent to Neandor lands.

    Being more honourable than this the Neandor has secured 'permission' from the native land owners and the colonial powers of the region to settle a few colonies. The areas we requested required negotiations with China, in the first instance, and India as the current power in Indonesia and Australis.

    If any other nations have or had any plans to settle this region it is not Neandor's part to participate in negotiations as that is India's prerogative.

    It has come to my attention that Tokugawa may have some claims and if so I urge him to discuss with India and China.

    Veneta, the new King of the Neandor Line.
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    A public letter:


    [. . . .]
    I am a bit confused as to why the Indians would need to be consulted with prior to settlement of lands that are not remotely near their own homeland. If this is the case, then the Inca have every right to these lands as the Indians do. Moreso, in fact, as there is not a large continent separating Incaco from New Caczcoynaco, as is the case with the Indians. So, why were the Inca not consulted first before Indians settled territory that is reachable by simple watercraft from the Inca homeland? I feel that upon review, one will find these lands actually closer to Incaco than India's mainland, or at best at a near equal distance... That India wishes to approach this delicate situation so aggressively is troubling to the Inca, who wish only for peace and understanding among interested parties. They clearly are showing themselves to be quite greedy and expansive.

    I will not comment on Japanese or Chinese claims at present, as there is a diplomatic mission underway, and I do not wish to "put my vocal chords in the throat of another" regarding the high envoy assigned to that mission. At present, we are not aware of any such claims to the few simple islands we have claimed. Please note that the map of non-settlement territory includes one island that is completely unsettleable, being simply an active volcano which no man may settle on. One other island has no resources of any kind to sustain a colony, and of all interested parties, only the Inca, with their strong financial abilities in coastal waters, could ever hope to turn a profit from such an adventure (although, again, at present we have no desire to do so). That means, outside of indisputably Inca territorial waters, the Inca have claimed but a single small island beyond their New Cac colony.

    The Inca agree with the sentiment that an entire continent that no nation is native to is not the claim of any nation. The Inca, however, feeling that the Chinese or, in particular, Japanese would have some qualms with such an understanding, decided to not claim even the lands of that continent, and instead have only claimed a single outlying island on the far side that is mostly bereft of resources and is, as we have found, quite cold and mountainous.

    If any nation takes issue with such a claim, we ask that they speak up.


    Signed,

    Yallacota Y'Cuzco
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    English historians in the royal court of Queen Elizabeth I have compiled a brief history of the English nation:


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    Trade Inca Trade in the 14th Century, CE

    At the beginning of the 14th century, the Inca Empire primarily traded with only six other major powers. Foremost among them, by a long shot, were the Neandor, who had been major economic partners with the Inca for a long time. On the Inca side, this led to a 36,700,000 Incos per annum trade yield, half of it between the two capitals. The Inca-Neandor relationship was a positive, mutually beneficial one, even if it had some bumps in the road during the Pacific expansion.

    Although the Inca Empire was new to the scene in the Pacific, the Chinese had inexplicably become the second largest trading nation with Incacona, at roughly 22,000,000 Incos per annum, half of it between Nanjing and L'chulla. In addition, the Japanese city of Kyoto was already seeing limited trade with the Inca city of Mancho, likely related to the corn exports from the southeast that were now reaching Japan and quickly improving the health of its people.

    Behind Neandor and China, the Ottomans, French, and Russians all occupied large slices of Inca trade.

    Viking trade with Incacona, while significant, was also very limited to trade between the two capitals. Many blame this due to their relative seclusion and the English stifling of their naval trade.

    The English, despite such close proximity, had almost no official trade with Incacona. Many find this hard to believe, but most of the trade that occured between these powers was non-intercontinental, and as such unregulated. Only distant London and York had official trade routes set up with the Empire, while the continental holdings proceeded to make far larger trade volumes through the "black networks" of the Tamazono.

    For all that trade gave to Incacona, it gave far more to the rest of the world, which benefitted greatly from having such a distant, yet peaceful trade partner with such long-standing relations. The trade deficit saw the Inca Empire taking in almost twice as much as it exported, making for a nearly 100% trade deficit in these years.

    Around this time, formal trade agreements also began to take place between the Empire and other powers, as the Empire finally expanded into the Pacific, and at least had the ability for regular commodity trades with new nations. Immediately upon entering this region, Incacona set to work building a new network of trade groups with the preexisting powers with the diplomatic mission of Manato Manco, Ambassador for Pacific Affairs, aboard the ocean-going I.E.S. Atallhuapa, the flagship of the Great Yellow Fleet.

    Domestically, the increasing openness of Inca trading was seen as a boon for both exporters and importers, and especially exporter-importers, as well as all the financiers, insurers, ship-builders, wholesalers, and all the rest. During the reign of the middle Guacana emperors, the trade of the empire would simply explode, increasing by leaps and bounds throughout the 14th and 15th centuries. Such policies would prove highly popular, and as such would ensure future SCIs would be more diplomatic and liberal in their international relations. That the Inca managed to corner the international corn market was an even greater triumph.

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    Gold The 14th Century Incacona Economy

    And, after a nice break, some more analysis of the Inca Empire in 1300...


    The Empire's economy at this point was heavily trade-based, with its share of GDP at 22%, and this would only grow over the next two centuries, generally termed "the economic centuries". At the beginning of this great period, the economy had already seen strong growth in the late 13th century, in particular in the R&D sector of the economy, which had surged 8% in its closing years, from 12% of the total economy to 20% in 1300. As with trade growth, growth in that sector would also explode during this period.

    The government's share of the economy was quite postive, as it maintained trade fleets to the colonies, the interregional road networks, the central and provincial bureaucracies, and the armies. Generally, it is assumed to have added a net 13% to the GDP, although the figures are debatable. Some say that although the government indeed did add much to the economy, the maintenance should be taken out of GDP figures. If such is the case, then the government takes out 16% of the GDP.

    The urban economies in the many cities, "guild towns", and central industrial districts added heavily to the economy as well, with around 13% of GDP. Some felt this share should be larger, but much of its actual inputs were from the major river systems, whose trades and productions contributed 12% to GDP (although only 8% or so was overlapping).

    Coastal trade and mineral/dye extraction rounded out the last quintile of GDP, combined. Although the Empire had originally been a mining giant, by this point such activities had fallen well down the list of important contributors to the overall economy. Likewise, the Empire had originally relied heavily on coastal trade for economic output, but as it had expanded inland and built up infrastructure and developed a scientific community, such activity had silently slid into the margins.

    At this point in Incacona history, increasing international trade and domestic research programs looked to be the main drivers of growth in the next 200 years. Within 40 years, the government would begin funding research programs in every city to improve its technological standing, which would greatly increase the government's role in the general economy.

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    A formal statement regarding settling in the East Indies


    In order to avoid issue and ill will, India feels it must clarify its position on Inca and other settlements in the region of the East Indies islands and the Far Eastralia (also called Australia) land mass. India believes that it can co-exist peacefully with all its neighbours and all far away empires, it is our greatest desire. However, if nations act in ways towards their cousins which are not brotherly, then both man and empire will be angered by injustice. India knows that anger is a dangerous emotion that must be curtailed, but it is also a natural emotion. As such, it is not the anger itself that must be targeted, but the root cause of anger. Nothing breeds negative emotion more than injustice, perceived or factual. To show lack of trust and respect to a brother or cousin is an act of insult, and to take action that affect him without consulting him an injustice.

    It is therefore that India has rejected the Inca claim to the islands of New Zeylon as Inca has not communicated with the local powers regarding their settlement. They have acted on their own without regard for the local situation or the interests of its newfound neighbours. As such we suggest that Inca make a formal apology for their insensitive settling and in the future be willing to discuss matters that concern its neighbours with said neighbours. Those neighbours being the local powers that have these lands within their natural spheres of interest. Specifically Japan and India, but also China. Colonial settlements near our lands affect us all, and as such we desire to be respected enough to be consulted in such events. Should Inca not care if India settled on their continent?

    No, we must act in good faith and with respect towards each other, if not the wars of destruction will plague humankind. We hope that Inca sees this as an invitation to friendship, rather than a denunciation.


    Ptolemy Vayabagaran

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    The ambassador for all Pacific affairs has decided to weigh in, as his position is higher than that of the South Pacific ambassador.

    "Inca is the local power for the Southeast Pacific (those of Inca exclusion zones so mapped). The only other power that can share such a distinction is the Aztec Empire, but as they haven't the naval prowess or power of the Inca, and seem to be perpetually aloof, Inca alone will take on this territory. Some of these zones may be contestable by Japanese or Chinese interests, but that is of no concern to Indians. The East-Central Pacific (Hawaiico and those to the west) and all lands beyond have their own local powers, such as the Japanese and Chinese, whom the Inca would surely talk to before settlement. The Inca do not observe any particular proximity or natural ownership of ANY Pacific lands in regards to Indians, save perhaps Sumatra-Javaco. The Inca currently are communicating with the Japanese and Chinese to gain further understanding over what they perceive to be their spheres of influence and security. The Inca, however, are not going to discuss with arrogant Indians if those Indians are going to make blatantly false arguments to support the idea that marginal lands closest to Incaco whose only purpose would be to attack Incaco are of any Indian concern. They are not. The Southeast Pacific is of no use to anyone to colonize other than to antagonize Incaco. As such, it is off limits, and unless the Emperor makes an exception, there will be no tolerance of such settlement by Indians.

    Why have the Indians, in settling islands closer to Incaco (as can be noted by any man with a simple map), not communicated with the Inca Empire or Aztec Empire? The Indians show themselves to be greedy expansionists and hypocrites in their scribbled diatribes towards the Inca. They wish the Inca to hilariously contact them in order to settle lands closest to Inca. What arrogance is this. It will only be met with more of the same.

    Nobody contacted Incacona before settling these lands, save the English. The Inca, however, did not expect such contact for lands so distant to any people and not part of any settled continents. Likewise, the Inca did not believe such contact necessary with anyone for lands so distant. Now, however, in order to avoid misunderstandings and war, Inca have solidified their position vis-a-vis settlement in the Southeastern Pacific. The Inca wish to see other powers (Japan and China) solidify their positions as well, to avoid any future misunderstandings. Unless the four other settled powers in the South Pacific (Neandor, England, China, and Japan) accept it, Inca do not respect Indians claims outside of their already settled territories. If the consensus, however, is for Indian recognition, the Inca will so abide.

    Do not beat the drums of war, India. Inca have no such desire. Inca desire only peace in the Pacific. Inca are working hard towards that goal. We seek only the security and prosperity of all major Pacific powers, especially the Chinese and Japanese. Should we become as Europe, divided and always ready for war? Inca already are major trading partners of other Pacific powers, and Inca and Japan and China all share the same religion (we still are unsure why, perhaps it is the ocean itself which generates such beliefs and binds us together). Inca citizens are now starting to pour into Japan and fill their shrines with our own gold. Inca traders and Chinese traders have major relations. Inca and China and Japan now even enter into lasting trade agreements. This is all for the best for all three of our powers, so we wish to further strengthen these many bonds and strengthen the Pacific powers together in lasting peace and good will.

    Why do Indians wish to see the ocean of peace become red and turbulent? You agitate over lands not belonging to yourselves. Your words of peace are a thin covering for your violent and aggressive natures."

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    Your words are unnecessarily harsh and belligerent and you mistake our motives and our statement. India has stated that humility is the greatest virtue, and we are in our correspondance applying such humility, and request that Inca do the same. Allow us to state clearly our position and our intent.
    We are not disputing the Incan right to the central pacific islands.
    We are not demanding that Inca withdraw from their presence at New Zeylon

    What we are saying is thus; New Zeylon is located some 30 nautical tiles of coastal waters from the Indian heartland, at the end of a string of islands settled by the nearby empires of Japan and India (China has no overseas colonies). The same lands lie according to the best of our charts, 35 nautical tiles from the Incan homeland across a vast and mostly empty ocean.

    As such, the Incan act of seizing New Zeylon with a unilateral declaration is in fact a matter which concerns India, as we have naturally extended our sphere of influence along the coastal sealanes of the East Indies islands. Furthermore, due to the lack of natural connection with these islands, India sees Inca as a foreign colonizer of what we consider near-local lands. As stated in our previous correspondance, India believes in the brotherhood of all people, and as such desire that all nations treat other nations with respect and humility. Inca states aggressively that India has no claim on New Zeylon, yet as I have stated previously, India's zone for natural expansion is onto these islands as they follow from the coastline of our home waters. You can hardly accuse a small coast-sailing nation of being expansionist in their own back yard?
    Our desire in this is that the Inca recognize India's position in the region as a valid one and agree to open formal relations. As we are to become neighbours, it seems logical to Indians that Inca enter the neighbourhood with openness and respect, as you are in fact newcomers to these lands from far away. What we desire is openness, diplomacy and dialogue. This is our only purpose, How can this be seen as beating the drums of war?

    In Conclusion
    Does Inca agree that India has a valid point and that we should work together to avoid strife by being open and respectful towards each other? All we are truly asking of you is that you recognize that India has both a natural position in the East Indies and as such should be counted as a local power in this island region. If this is acceptable, we expect that you show us the respect of discussing with us any future plans of settlement in the region, as well as the possibility for improving our relations. These are not demands, they are requests. Requests for a good relationship between neighbouring lands.

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    The Emperor himself now responds, quite haughtily, to Indian issuances:

    There is no Inca right to the central islands. Inca suppose (although we have no confirmation) that those islands are Japanese in right.

    Indian geographers must go back to school. From the shores of Incaco to NZ is shorter by some few thousand patchas than it is from the Indian subcontinent. Indians should remember that [1 tile] diagonally is [1.5 tiles] in length... It is okay, Incacona has many academies that you may attend.

    "Near-local lands"? These lands are separated from you by an entire continent. Your definition of "near-local" apparently applies to half the globe.

    The entire world may "follow the coastlines of your waters". What an absurd approach to distinguishing ownership. So, too does Madagascarco and France itself by that logic! Inca sailors have traced a path of coastlines to these places long before Indian ones did. How quickly you forget your ancient first contact with Inca, when you still had not even properly settled your own coasts! Soon, you will claim Iceco and Greenco as well. Oh, all the lands that somehow are in coastal contact with India, you now belong to the Indians, may the galleys full of settlers and archers overwhelm you and take you for Mother India!

    Inca's position all along has been that these lands are for those who first took them. India has taken Tasmania, Inca has taken New Caczcoynaco, England and Neandor have split the continent proper, and other powers take the many islands surrounding to the north. India has as much right to Tasmania as do the Mali, and Inca respect that alone. Not until now has anyone seemed to have any issue with any of this, but then India comes along, home to another ocean altogether, and makes an issue out of it! As far as Inca are concerned, Indians are not a Pacific power. They may control their own entire ocean of India if they so desire, but a single, small colony on a tucked away piece of rock in the corner does not a oceanic power make. There it is, Indians have their own ocean to splash in, yet they insist on making themselves the power of another. Inca are content to be in one ocean, we have given up our rights even to the small sea to our north, perhaps India should choose finally which ocean it wants to be a part of. Inca will be happy to take India's Indian Ocean holdings if India wants to be a Pacific power instead.

    Perhaps the next Emperor will look upon you more favorably, but it is not his turn yet. Feel comfort in the fact that I am not long for this world, India, that your fortunes may change yet for the better...

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    Soon after his "Indian Letter", Chullana Guacan died of what many suspect was a heart attack. His son quickly took his place, but his rule was all too temporary, as he had made many bitter enemies in the past, and quickly moved to consolidate his rule and wipe out his past foes. His rule was less than 3 weeks. After this point, there was a succession of Guacana family heads, none of which particularly worked out, and the Empire moved from one Emperor to the next, in search of a proper ruler. This period lasted about 10-15 years, ending finally with the ascension of Makato Guacan to the throne in 1332 CE. During the interim period, the Inca central government was effectively out of action in international affairs.

    During this time, the bureaucracy effectively moved a few blocks to the east to a slightly nicer location, that although a bit more expensive than the previous one, had better communication networks and koi ponds and fountains in the royal chamber, which the new emperors thought "most worth the extra expense per month". Due to difficulties in logistics, the central government had to stay in more temporary accommodations during this period, which made officiating a transoceanic empire a bit impossible.

    What would Makato's rule be like? What kind of man was he? Would he treat the Indians more humbly, as they requested? Would he be a bit less brusque and offensive in his remarks, perhaps a bit less temperamental, a bit less of a *****y old man? Would his rule be one of tolerance, peace, and good will? What were in those obscure dice of the fates?

    Well, we'll find out, won't we?

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    The following is a public notice from the Ottoman Interim Government...

    Our frightened citizens in the small village of Carthage have reported seeing French warships filled with soldiers headed towards the peaceful port. We have atteempted communications with the French but our emissaries have been ignored, so we have no information regarding the destinations or intentions of these warships. However, should their intentions be hostile towards the Ottoman people, we will defend our lives, and we will consider any who aid the French in an unprovoked attack as enemies. This includes giving safe passage to the French as they advance hostile forces towards our cities.

    We regret having to come before the international community with this disturbing news.

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    If the French have some reason for such alarming military maneuvers, let them be heard now.

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    Viking A New Man

    After the long progression of endless temporary SCIs ended, a new man stepped to the throne to restore order in the Empire. His name was Makato Guachulla, from the Guacana territories. He was the general in charge of the L'chulla Guard, and although his ascension was not a military coup, it had many of the trappings of one. The time of endless succession was mostly due to the incoherence of Guacana politics, heavily fractured and somewhat anarchic. Makato did not take Capaco by force, but he did use his influence with the local military to quell some dissent and solidify a position of authority in the provice.

    His reign would be of an average length, ending in the turmoil of the brief dark period in the wake of the Capaco fire and his assassination.

    He was noted as a militaristic leader, highly expansive, highly aggressive in all affairs. Still, he was highly diplomatic and interested in international affairs, the first true "internationalist" emperor in the Empire's history. He would see the construction of the modern global diplomatic system for the Empire, the four global embassies, as well as further consulates in major capitals. His rule would end with a major shakeup of trade agreements, so that Inca merchants and diplomats could focus better on relations and trade with select countries and regions.

    At home, he was noted for being radically leftist, fanatically religious, and nearly a communist (although the term and ideology had not yet appeared). His fanaticism would lose out to his liberalism in the end, however, as his final act would be to sign the Declaration of Religious Freedom, formally acknowledging the right of the people to worship as they pleased. Within the hour, he would be found dead in his chambers, with various religious symbols carved into his chest.

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    India wishes to buy stone

    We are offering Incense, Sugar or Ivory in return.
    The deal will last for 40 turns then go up for re-negotiation if both parties do not agree to continue it.

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    To All Concerned Powers:


    I am most distressed by unprovoked Viking aggression on English land, and the trespass of Vikings on English soil. The Inca have long stood for peace and free trade in the world, and such actions will only wreak havoc on the otherwise profitable and beneficial international community of merchants and guilds. We hope no serious disruptions will occur in our significant trade networks with either party.

    Still, the English have trespassed on Inca soil before, and do to this day still. Perhaps this is their dues to be paid...

    We will not yet condemn or applaud Viking actions, save for the fact they play loose with risk to the growing global community. This distresses me personally quite dearly, yet it is understandable given how the English have so restricted the Vikings from that community. Both parties bear blame for their actions, present and past. Perhaps if the English would appease the Vikings by offering them safe passage through their waters, this would resolve the issue. All major shipping lanes should be free of state interference, and the English Channel so qualifies.

    We will not comment further at this time on such sensitive diplomatic relations. We only wish other powers involved in the European world will state their portion soon.

    We also commend the Neandor and India for their signal of international cooperation and integration. We hope more states will follow their lead.


    Signed,

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    Our most exalted leader, Camaxtli the cunning, is currently awaiting messengers who should inform him of the status of his empire.

    Furthermore Aztec wise men are consulting the gods of Pah 'ss Word and Se 'r Ver to get access to the turning cycle of time. Until that time it will not be possible to sign any treaties or consult any foreigners as that will surely anger the gods.

    One other god who makes communication in this period difficult is the god of Pri Vatemess Ages who awaits the appearance of the magical number of 10.

    We now see the god of Pri Vatemess Ages has been appeased by writing this very message. Let us rejoice..

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    And so, after years of colonial rule in North America, the tides of change swept over the land. George Washington, leader of the new United States of America, aided by the French commander-in-chief Comte de Rochambeau, defeated Cornwallis at the Siege of Yorktown. According to those present, the following conversation took place:

    George Washington
    : So listen up partner, you lost, fair and square.

    Cornwallis: Indeed, this appears to be so. Rather unnerving.

    Rochambeau
    : Putain! Merde! Damnanglais!

    George Washington
    : So you better pack up your ****, and get the hell of my property.

    Cornwallis: Goodness gracious me, such coarse language, upsetting and whatnot!

    Rochambeau: Merde! Putain! Damnanglais!

    George Washington: And, when you get to Inglund *spits chewing tobacco in front of Cornwallis' feet*, tell them royals that we no longer take kindly to y'all in these here parts.

    Cornwallis: Good heavens, such barbaric words. I will no longer suffer this intolerable behavior. Good day to you sir.

    Rochambeau: Putain! Merde! Damnanglais!
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    The end of the Snarg Line was a good thing for the Neander.

    King Veneta took over swiftly and immediately set about improving Neander diplomatic relations.

    For a long time the Snarg Line insisted that Neander was under threat from the Vikings and that a military buildup should dominate affairs Neander. It is true that the Snarg Line of Northern Neanders was distantly related to the Russians and relations with them appeared to have improved for many hundreds of years. But the Viking buildup in Uppsala was the problem they focussed on, always increasing tensions with them.

    King Veneta, distantly related to the Franzen Line and therefore a very distant descendent of Grunzen himself had of course a more French background and lept at the opportunity to engage with King Gozzo of the Vikings. The paranoia of Nordica gradually ebbed as friendship blossomed between the Neander and the Vikings. Trade deals were struck and security to the West of Neander now looked solid - particularly now that a defensive pact with France had also been signed.

    On the surface King Veneta found relations with the old ally, the Turks, to be getting back to the old ways but King Interim was yet to be tested when the choices of international affairs confronts him. Neander remains confident of this friendship as Veneta worked tirelessly to defuse any misunderstandings between the Turks and the French.

    King Veneta felt confident that lucrative deals will be struck with King Interim of the Turks and that cultural tensions will be balanced.

    The Neanders had also worked persistently at a high diplomatic level with both India and China to secure one city in Terra Australis.
    - Long ago, even under the Snargs, China was consulted on land access to the East. It was agreed that the two barbarian cities would not be captured by the Neander and that China was content for discussions to occur allowing the Neander to settle on an island or Australis
    - Japan proved difficult to communicate with as it was clear that Japan was settling many islands in the region - co-operation with Japan is still sought on matters of colonization
    - The Indians had permitted sea access to South East Australasia and a location for the city of Mungo
    - A mutual defence alliance was struck with India and Neander supports their claims in SEA
    - Tension with the Inca has been averted as it is not the domain of the Neander to get involved, leaving all affairs Asian to the Asian powers

    It is true that King Veneta has continued with the consistent policy of alerting nations to the dangers of rampant and un-negotiated colonisation by the Damn Anglais.

    Whilst the Neander worked hard at the diplomatic level to secure one city site in Australis (giving Neander a total of 8 cities only) it was seen that the Damn Anglais, true to form from the era of Carthage, just settled everywhere they could without any respect to the native land owners or to the local civilized powers who had regional claims (like the Inca, India, Japan). The Damn Anglais are growing rapidly towards 20 cities world wide.

    The Indian claims to much of Terra Australis is fully respected by the Neander. Any settlement by foreign powers who have not consulted the Asian powers will be opposed by the Neander.

    The Neander Line stands sandwiched between many nations in Europe and has honoured cultural borders with all neighbours. King Veneta requests dialogs with any nation or kingdom that has any issues.
    The question of whether modern humans and Neanderthals mated when they encountered each other 40,000 years ago is highly controversial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by India (DoE) View Post
    India wishes to buy stone

    We are offering Incense, Sugar or Ivory in return.
    The deal will last for 40 turns then go up for re-negotiation if both parties do not agree to continue it.
    Dear Ptolomy,

    We can lend you Stone.

    King Veneta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inca (DoE) View Post
    If the French have some reason for such alarming military maneuvers, let them be heard now.

    Maytallha Cuzcy
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    Dear Maytallha Cuzcy,

    We see your ambassadors arriving soon to Venetii! All assistance will be provided for you to build the new Incan embassy.

    Upon arrival please come along to the military headquarters for more accurate information on affairs of French ships. Mis-information spreads fast and before we know it many nations start to run a dialog on it!

    The French ships have always patrolled this region.

    King Veneta
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