to play fair, or not to play fair

[trevor]

Even though I will enjoy this game and the choice between going between the ages slowly or quickly; I still would like to crush my enemies and have a huge superiority in every area. So to get to the heart of the matter, will there be cheats in the game?
Thanks

[vovan]

Yes in single-player, no in MP. And in MP, too you can't get a huge lead even if your opponent is much worse than you due to the fact that the players that are behind get slight bonuses, and those ahead, get certain additional hurdles to jump over.

[Enriquillo]

It's just the ramping costs right? Or do you get any other bonuses for being backwards

[Sarxis]

Yes, there's a bonus for aging up when you are behind in ages. Its slight, though.

[One_Dead_Villy]

well it depends on how bad your opponent is...there is always people who are so bad its not funny, and even with ramping costs its no contest

[HuangShang]

how many accually expect to be cheating, i know i will, but rarely

[monkspider]

the occasional all-powerful "cheat" game can be entertaining.

[One_Dead_Villy]

what is the point of cheating?

multiplayer its not tolerated...
single player, other then seeing funny units like cow catapults or whatever, if its to help you win, its just fooling one self. anyone with some skillz doesnt need it to win against the comp anyways.

[tniem]

He said the reason he likes it is because it gives him the chance to be way ahead and dominate the competition. Read the first post in the thread for his exact response.

[One_Dead_Villy]

I read the whole thread before.

You don't need cheats to dominate your opponent if you're good!

If u cheat then they will cheat, and how will you dominate your opponent then? they have the same stuff you will.

You're just basically violating all of the careful design and balance in the game. why not have a cheat that makes u win instantly? too easy? Ok just make it so your stuff cant be destroyed. I dont see how that make a game more fun. Woohoo you're dominating but ya are u really?

Try this, dont need cheats in the built in a game just ask your opponent to step away from the computer while u wack his idle nation. I'm sure that will seem like u're dominating him too.

[HuangShang]

cheating isnt all bad, sometimes it just helps u not to get bored

i definately would be using it in multiplayer or any half decent campains

[One_Dead_Villy]

if both sides agree to play with cheats thats fine (although rather pointless in my opinion), but the original poster is talking about dominating the opponent which means one side isnt using it, so its not concentual. We're not talking about cheat codes to unlock special graphics or just pure amusement addons they have that doesnt effect gameplay. The question was cheats that offer an unfair advantage over an opppnent in a game. Who wants to play a cheater? I dont. Why not just get trainers and cheat in ways not designed in the game, anyone can just buy a cheat book to know the codes. Either way, It just ruins a game.

If cheats are legit, why dont they allow them in gaming tournaments? If its legit, why dont they just make permanently in the game and u dont need any cheat codes and they wont have to bother balancing the civs, it sure would save development time. Just make a game with ridiculous rules.

Hey I have a scenario I designed that makes it impossible for you to win, and I can thump you, u wanna play with me so I can laugh my ass off at you? Probably not, so why would anyone else wanna play against a cheater.

[trevor]

One_Dead_Villy, you do realize that I'm talking about playing aganist the computer. Besides, haven't you ever used a cheat to nuke people while still in the stone age or something?

[One_Dead_Villy]

it wasnt obvious in your original post, but HuangShang's post which i replyed to he specifically say against multiplayer. People as in multiplayer? No I never used cheats. Like I said I like a challenge. Against a computer? Other then to see the special units like in AOK's its boring for me to actually play cheats against a comp, its already easy enough already.

[tniem]

Huang sometimes leaves out words, I assume he meant that he would not be using cheats in a half way descent campaign or in MP. Or at least that is how it reads to me.