GALCIV vs MOO3

[slitherin]

I just got Galciv by purchasing the drengin.network at stardock's website. Galciv rocks! A lot of variety and ease of menus makes this a real fun game to play. Plus you can choose either to be a good, neutral, or evil empire in your actions (there are consequences!) and random events also throws you off. The ai will also kick your butt! Yes, ship designs are one track but everything else is well worth it.

Anyone willing to purchase my Moo for $30.00? Just email me at razuldazul@yahoo.com.

[vmxa1]

Likely most here already have Moo3. I suspect quite a few (me) will get Galciv in a few weeks when it is on the shelf.

[slitherin]

Oh well - charge to experience never -never again I am buying from quicksilver. They failed the Moo concept and really f---ed this one to the ninth degree.

[Killazer]

ya I just think moo3 is way overdone to the point where most people will have no fun playing the game. Bloated, poor graphics, poor combat system/graphics, poor/no atmosphere very robotic excel-like. It's ok... but its not really moo

[Arnelos]

The combat system is definately not "poor" or anywhere close.

Quite frankly, I've never seen a space strategy game force me to think as much about tactics as I'm having to do with MoO3. Mass, manuever, recon.... it all MATTERS in this game!

The depth of strategy when it comes to tactical combat easily beats any other space strategy game out there. These guys might even know their Clausiwitz and their Sun Szu (Clausiwitz was obviously an inspiration).

The ground combat is also rather complex and I haven't figured it out yet.

As for atmosphere... geesh... most people have been complaining about TOO MUCH atmosphere (the 'I don't need no stinking backstory' crowd ). I would argue that it seems to have a nice atmosphere.

What it lacks and what you're really getting at:

- GRAPHICS
- Complexity and spreadsheet-frenzy like feel

If you want to play Starcraft, that's cool. Starcraft is one of my favorite games... I won't disparage it. But this is not Starcraft, nor is this any of the more recent RTS games. I like the fact that this game his heavy on strategy and light on graphics. I wouldn't mind more graphics (they're cool), but I'd rather have the strategy.

[Killazer]

well ya the numbers of the combat system work fine... just it is incredibly boring and you have very few actual controls when you do take control. that is partly the very poor graphics, and the other part is like I said the AI just calculates and does everything for u thus no immersion, no fun.... just some crapy graphics and some set-ups to get you the best results with the numbers.

[slitherin]

Yep, the combat system is better but we are talking about the game mechanics and the feel of the game. No need to repeat the drawbacks on this. Also galciv will be giving a bonus pack to edit your ships, players, and techs - plaus added graphics and other goodies. I am only playing the beta 5 version but it still a vast improvement over Moo3. The final version should be awesome. Funny how Galciv is shaping to take over the Moo legacy. The only thing that made me buy Moo3 was the Moo name. Toilet paper anyone?

[Sarxis]

Well, since both games are being published by Infogrames, I dont' feel so bad about buying and trying to play MoO3; hopefully it will help 'feed' the Space TBS genre a little more.

And I might have to get GalCiv too.. but I just don't know about no MP.

[Gargantua]

I joined recently drengin.net as well, my impressions so far are very good, AI seems to be very agressive,so far I lost all games i played. Game feels very CIV-ish, there are things I like , and there things I dont like, for example, I do not like very much expressions in diplo screen like " We have old earth saying : 'Kiss my a**' "
It is maybe funny, but too cheesy, other than that, even in beta we are playing, there are tons of features, I've only seen the top, very addictive. Very good game, but comparison with Moo3 maybe is not quit correct, they are basically two different games.

[ChaotikVisions]

It looks interesting, more like a "Civ in space" game then anything else i've seen. The restricting to Human thing annoys me though. Even if you can customize the humans and its "to increase the story so it feels better", I don't know. Is there a planned demo for it, or is the only way I can get by forking over cash for other games I don't want? But all that said, i'll probably get it since I love strategy, wether it'll actually compete for my time is another matter.

[pmaura]

from what I have heard the there is not even any graphics for gal civ combat its a pure number crunch

[Tytan]

The responses of the other Civs varies on the level of your diplomatic skill......the other diplomat is often not saying what you are hearing him say....its a bad translation because of your low technology.....

In other words if you have a low tech it sounds ridiculous, but the higher you go the easier it is to understand what is being said.

Also, Your diplomatic ability, relative to the AI, affects your messages to the AI and from the AI to you. Your effective military power, diplomatic level of relations and ethics affect it as well.

Just think, not only does it sound ridiculous to you, but it also sounds ridiculous to them too........

[CharlesBHoff]

In real life general donot have complete command of all combat unit on the fornt once actural fighting start. All the command decrision are make ahead of time by the sumpere commander and pass down the chain of command.

[Asmodean]

Re: GALCIV vs MOO3

Originally posted by slitherin
I just got Galciv by purchasing the drengin.network at stardock's website. Galciv rocks! A lot of variety and ease of menus makes this a real fun game to play. Plus you can choose either to be a good, neutral, or evil empire in your actions (there are consequences!) and random events also throws you off. The ai will also kick your butt! Yes, ship designs are one track but everything else is well worth it.

Anyone willing to purchase my Moo for $30.00? Just email me at razuldazul@yahoo.com.

How did you do that?? The beta is closed, and no downloads are possible untill march 26th. The only way you could possibly download GalCiv now would be if Stardocks download program "Stardock Central" had a bug. Furthermore, Strategy First would skin Stardock alive, if GalCiv was available now. If you're gonna lie, do it so you wont get caught.

Asmodean (Galactic Civilizations Gamma tester)

[yeem]

Then again, there IS an advert for GalCiv IN my MOO3 box; obviously they want us to buy both. I was kind of suprised to see this as the general thought is that they are competitors. Maybe we can take this as a sign that the games will be complimentary titles?

Good, now I dont have to choose just one, I get the opportunity of helping the economy by spending my money on another game!

yeem