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  • Rantz is the strategy guide outdated?

    I've heard a few people mutter on the threads that Prima's official moo3 strategy guide is outdated? Well better than believing heresay I was wondering if I could hear it straight from the horses mouth? Is the strategy guide outdated? If so, whats obsolete?
    -Demos

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    Its a PRIMA guide (strike one) that was released FOUR MONTHS before the game (strike two). What do *YOU* think?
    Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

    People should be poked in the eye....

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    • #3
      There is no point of buying a so called strategy guide created before code cut off. (That 4 month before release thing guaranteed I wouldn't buy it)

      It would be useful as a work of fiction to familiarize yourself with some of the major functionality and races in the game.

      That's about it.

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      • #4
        According to Lore Weaver, the data presented in table form is useful. Having the various techs, diplomacy info, and ground combat is all actually useful to him, and he's been playing for a while now.

        Don't expect much in the way of strategy; the numbers seem to be largely correct though.

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        • #5
          From what I've heard, the strategy guide is the only place you will find:

          - A listing of all of the technologies in the game and what they do
          - A listing of all of the ship weapons in the game and what they do
          - A listing of all of the ground combat manuevers in the game and what they do -vs- each other

          etc, etc, etc.

          Basically, anything beyond the charts in the strategy seems to be utterly useless and I'll bet a number of the charts are useless if the values on them have changed. That said, indication I've seen from a few beta testers is that they use some of that information themselves because (as yet), it's the only place to find it.

          Give about 1 month of muddling your way through the dark and GameFAQ will have caught up to speed on making a comprehensive FAQ, nevermind the strategy guide that Orion Sector plans to develop or the strategy forum here at Apolyton.

          If you wait about a month or so, you'll probably find more than you could possibly ever expect from a Prima strategy guide here
          Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
          Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
          7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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          • #6
            I'd hope some of that stuff gets patched into the game. The chief criticism from every reviewer, no matter whether like or dislike the game, is that it is impenetrable. Being able to understand what each new tech actually delivers has to be a priority.
            To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
            H.Poincaré

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            • #7
              im abit worried about not knowing what each tech does

              the way it is at the mo don't u even get a little blurb?

              ooh and on topic i'd say the answers yes

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              • #8
                The strategy guide also tells you what stances to make in diplomacy. For example, you should always Demand with the Sakkra, and always respond Insultingly.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JonahFalcon
                  The strategy guide also tells you what stances to make in diplomacy. For example, you should always Demand with the Sakkra, and always respond Insultingly.
                  That's the type of thing I want to learn by trial and error. Should be amusing (in a masochistic kind of way).
                  "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                  "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                  "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                  • #10
                    So 13Matt13, what's the story with you over at IGMOO?

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                    • #11
                      Try Begging and being Appreciative at the Sakkra. Watch how fast they declare war on you. heh

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                      • #12
                        "Try Begging and being Appreciative at the Sakkra. Watch how fast they declare war on you. heh"

                        Hey, just had an idea and I wonder if they do it in the game but it might be cool to mod where MOST of the time a race responds like you want them to but every now and then, for example, you appreciatively beg the Sakkra for something and they love you for it!

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                        • #13
                          Is diplomacy really such a no-brainer, making you click "aggressive" like a Pawlovian dog every time you talk to Sakkras?

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                          • #14
                            Does it say anything on Harvesters other than everyone hates them? If they're a bioengineered race breed for killing I'd like to find a small colony to keep under my thumb for ground troops. If you can have a successful diplomatic relationship with them, how do your citizens react?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Rantz is the strategy guide outdated?

                              Originally posted by Demosthenes1234
                              I've heard a few people mutter on the threads that Prima's official moo3 strategy guide is outdated? Well better than believing heresay I was wondering if I could hear it straight from the horses mouth? Is the strategy guide outdated? If so, whats obsolete?
                              -Demos
                              outdated? No.

                              Complete? No.
                              Rantz Hoseley
                              Art Director
                              Quicksilver Software, Inc.

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