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  • #16
    Alex, this information has been posted here, several times, in various forms and flavors.

    It's nothing new. If MarkG or DanQ want to do something about it, they would already have done it.

    Besides, what do you have to be bitter about - you already have the friggin manual.

    ETA: Wow. Just wow. Some of you might know what I'm talking about. Others won't. Still, wow.
    Last edited by kalbear; February 20, 2003, 02:36.

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    • #17
      I'll give it away - the Ikthul are creatures who wear bunny slippers, making them evil beyond measure.

      BUNNY SLIPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JonahFalcon
        I'll give it away - the Ikthul are creatures who wear bunny slippers, making them evil beyond measure.

        BUNNY SLIPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!
        Dang. I always thought they were insufferable upperclass folk who didn't recycle and drove SUVs that get three miles to the gallon.

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        • #19
          Mmmmm... what happened to the Ithkul spoiler post with a link to a site that had an actual screenie of the Ithkul? Did I miss something? Did it get taken down?

          I'm not trying to revive a dead thread, I'm just curious. Maybe I should start checking the boards while I'm at work....
          Objects in mirror are insignificant.

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          • #20
            dead. too slow.

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            • #21
              I'm assuming that MakG (co-owner of the site) deleted the thread.

              What happened is probably what I figured when I signed on earlier this evening and saw the spoiler thread.

              MarkG, who moderates this part of the site, has A LOT of different forums that he moderates and doesn't always check each individual forum on a constant basis. He also lives in Greece, so a thread which was posted somewhere mid to late-day in North America was likely being posted in while he was sleeping.

              When he got online, he almost certainly had received e-mails and PMs requesting the thread be immediately deleted and did so.

              The whining from some people that the site was permitting anything and everything to be posted here therefor is quite hollow...

              There's only so much a site that generally allows freedom of speech can do about people "in the know" posting stuff to their forums. AFAIK, they have no script to automatically block anyone from posting links to images of Ithkul or even the capability to do that

              So it's only to be expected that there will be a time delay between something potentially offensive being posted and when it's removed. That's just the nature of things.

              As for removing the concent.... assuming that's what happened (as it appears), I honestly think Apolyton handled this very appropriately.

              I'm happy that we're permitted to SPECULATE about the Ithkul all we want here, though
              Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
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              • #22
                Ahhh... yes, that makes sense. I'm still curious as to what I missed as far how it all went down. I imagine it could have gotten a bit ugly.

                I think this thread is now pretty much useless. Those who wanted to peek at the Ithkul have by now done so (it is pretty easy to find the Ithkul pics and such) and those who wish to be left in the dark until the game is released will simply wait. The game will be out in a few days and none of this will matter any more.
                Objects in mirror are insignificant.

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                • #23
                  What you might have missed:

                  - Some guy posted a link to a site where there was a description of the potential plot role of the Ithkul and a picture of an Ithkul (from the race selection screen, apparently).

                  - some betatester/reviewer people posted a little peeved, pretty much killing any speculation that the image might not be legit.

                  - one beta complained that Apolyton hadn't killed the thread yet and asked if IG/QS were really powerless to do something about it.

                  - Rantz entered the thread and said that IG/QS were powerless to do anything about it as this was an independent fan website. Rantz seemed annoyed at the guy who posted the actual image, basically saying it was just a lame attempt by the guy to get attention.

                  - more whining

                  - I came back several hours later and the thread had disapeared from existence. You can guess what happened to it
                  Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
                  Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
                  7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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                  • #24
                    Obviously there is not a single Moo3 site left which isn't infested by the IGmoo censorship mentality. I think this is too high a price to pay just to keep developers posting in a forum.

                    This whole harvester thing is nothing but a PR gag, and all the fansites are happy to assist the IG marketing department. I bet the fanboys get a warm fuzzy feeling deep inside now, knowing they have once again been obedient and fulfilled their masters' will. Unfortunately they get fanatical over it, and suppress other people's beliefs much like the Inquisition did. Inquisitors, too, sought to protect poor innocent souls from evil.

                    I do realize that the fanboys probably act with the best motives, but I don't see why their desire to remain blissfully ignorant should have priority over mine, which is to know as much as possible.

                    Why is it the fanboys can't just avoid a thread titled "SPOILER!!!" if they don't want to see a spoiler?

                    If their will is too weak, and they are unable to resist their hidden wish, that only proves that they followed the wrong path in the first place.

                    After all these years, Usenet is still the only place where you can have a free discussion, unaffected by commercialism, which is quite sad. Of course this is a matter of little importance; after all it's "just" a game we're talking about. Nonetheless, giving in to unjustified censorship requests sheds a bad light on Apolyton's integrity, IMHO.
                    Last edited by darcy; February 21, 2003, 04:59.

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                    • #25
                      But it was so cool

                      I resisted clicking on the link for about, oh, one second

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                      • #26
                        It's just sad

                        That Apolyton is letting the IGMoo Nazi's control this site too.

                        Did the Apolyton ban the guy who started the thread?

                        Did Rantz and Chantz go to his house and beat him up?

                        Are they coming to beat me up since I read the thread?

                        Wasn't it stupid that they pretty much confirmed it was legit?

                        GB

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                        • #27
                          I didn't click on the link because I don't want to know what they are. I figured it was legit after looking at the other posts in the thread. At this point, I don't see why anyone would be worried about this; the people who want to know already do and the people who don't just don't look at **SPOILER**!! threads. I almost wish I had looked and downloaded the pic so I could repost it every time they removed the thread just for the principal of the matter.

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                          • #28
                            At this point, I don't see why anyone would be worried about this; the people who want to know already do and the people who don't just don't look at **SPOILER**!! threads.
                            It's because some people are intolerant. They can respect your opinion only if you wield power. Then they become submissive, but if you don't wield power, they like to exhibit a holier-than-thou attitude and patronize you.
                            Last edited by darcy; February 21, 2003, 11:52.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by darcy
                              After all these years, Usenet is still the only place where you can have a free discussion, unaffected by commercialism, which is quite sad. Of course this is a matter of little importance; after all it's "just" a game we're talking about. Nonetheless, giving in to unjustified censorship requests sheds a bad light on Apolyton's integrity, IMHO.
                              My thoughts exactly. This is just pathetic; points off for 'poly on this one.
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                              "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stuie


                                My thoughts exactly. This is just pathetic; points off for 'poly on this one.

                                I completely concur.

                                -P

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