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  • #16
    Originally posted by Grumbold
    If you have the patience to wait that long, ordering the US version via mail won't take too much longer and if you pick a European supplier should not cost you too much in postage charges. I know what you mean about the dilemma though. ...
    This is a wise advice, but you could not know that only last month I provided myself with my frist credit card ever...

    Besides, if I pick a european supplier (provided that I find one), I might incur in the same problem, that is a european supplier supplies only european versions indeed.

    Also, I like to grab the item in my hands when I shell the cash...

    I am surprised that you should have any problems with the localisation in the UK... I don't hink they'll review the manual for the UK version, by changing all the colors in colours and shifting the center into centre...
    I don't exactly know what I mean by that, but I mean it (Holden Caulfield)

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    • #17
      No. They add more copy protection, is all. That's what localised means in the UK sense.
      "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
      "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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      • #18
        You get different packaging, sometimes including a cut down or electronic manual. Its got to be certified and approved by UK censors (BBFC I think) and they may ask for content changes - Fallout 1&2 had all children removed, for instance, because you could shoot at them. These days they don't usually bother trying to Anglicise the language.

        www.strategic-plus.co.uk is an importer who will sell you the US and UK versions of any game. Because they are based in the UK they could then post it on to you at european rates rather than via overly expensive Fedex or UPS carriers. I'm sure they're not the only option if you hunt around. I know what you mean about getting your hands on the item though. I only go electronic when I discover that the UK version is two months away or has been done on the cheap.
        To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
        H.Poincaré

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        • #19
          Personally, I don't see how Graphics are so important.

          It's a viewpoint like that, imho, that causes games like Bridge Commander, et al, to come out. Games that look really pretty, have great graphics, but are really no fun to play.

          One of the best games that I have ever played is still Ancient Domains of Mystery (Or ADOM), and the BEST game that I have ever played is still Wasteland, back in the day, from Electronic Arts back when they still had an O in their abbreviation.

          Wasteland was text-based with a bit of a graphical interface, and ADOM, well, search for it on Google, if you see the website, you'll understand. It's a Rogue-like game.

          Those games, crappy graphics and all, are still some of the best, because they have something a lot of games these days severely lack, SUBSTANCE and REPLAYABILITY.

          I would be happier to shell out $40 (or $8,000 Canadian. ;D Nuttin' but love, guys. Nuttin' but love. ) for a game that has substance and replayability and crappy graphics, than to spend $20 on a game that has great graphics and nothing else.

          To this day, I still find myself playing MOO2 periodically, because, although there are a tone of games that LOOK better, it's still more fun.

          Me.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Straybow
            Yes, I recall some QS person saying that the Euro version wouldn't have the printed manual. Probably worried about the cost of translating and printing for a half dozen or more languages. Idiots. At least make the version with English manual available—how many European gamers can read English at least a little?
            I don't think antyone on the QS side *or* the IG side ever said there wouldn't be a manual with the overseas versions. I had said at one point that I didn't know what we were going to do for the European versions, since the growing trend in retail for the Euro market is to put games in DVD-style boxes which doesn't leave a lot of room for a manual. Honestly, I don't know what the final descision is on the oerseas packaging, so I'm afraid I can't give much more info than that.

            As far as the paper manual, we're expecting it to be about 180 -200 pages depending on layout, charts, illustrations and such. The goal is to have it be a good and helpful manual.

            crazy thought, that.

            As soon as I know what's happening with the Euro/overseas packaging, I'll post an announcement.
            Rantz Hoseley
            Art Director
            Quicksilver Software, Inc.

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            • #21
              Thanks for the clue-in, Rantz.

              I get the feeling you're getting a little worn out by running around doing damage control at every site where imaginative fans do their best to trump each other in cynism.
              "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
              "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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              • #22
                Thanks!

                Rantz,

                Thanks for the feedback.

                Best of luck to you and the team during the next two months.

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                • #23
                  Idiots.
                  Present company excluded…
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                  • #24
                    Well, Stray, you were flaming the distributors, really, not the developers anyway. So you needen't be too ashamed unless a guy from Infogreed starts posting here... And we all know the chance of that happeing, right?

                    What is more worthy of discussion is why developers who spend years of their lifes developing software titles allow contractual writ that makes important decisions such as these into a distributor issue - imagine a car company that'd shrug and say "they decided that, not us" when they find out their overseas sales reps are selling the cars without engines.
                    "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
                    "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Rantz
                      As soon as I know what's happening with the Euro/overseas packaging, I'll post an announcement.
                      Much appreciated, thank you.
                      To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
                      H.Poincaré

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by moomin
                        I get the feeling you're getting a little worn out by running around doing damage control at every site where imaginative fans do their best to trump each other in cynism.
                        Oh no, I consider it to be good exercise. And thanks to Eagle for the kind words... It's going to be a busy six weeks...
                        Rantz Hoseley
                        Art Director
                        Quicksilver Software, Inc.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Rantz
                          As soon as I know what's happening with the Euro/overseas packaging, I'll post an announcement.
                          Any more news yet? On another forum they seemed to think it had been announced.
                          To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
                          H.Poincaré

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                          • #28
                            As of today, there's no official packaging completed for the overseas version of moo3. I've seen the 'blueline' (pre press edition) of the manual and it's fairly beefy.

                            More as soon as we get confirmation on it.
                            Rantz Hoseley
                            Art Director
                            Quicksilver Software, Inc.

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                            • #29
                              Thanks
                              To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
                              H.Poincaré

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                              • #30
                                I disagree about the non elctronic packing.I like to be able to read without going somwhere and imeediantly.
                                Remeber the Antaran battle.

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