Plz dont release unfinished

[CB2034]

There have been too many games I have purchased lately the day it was released where I ended up being a beta tester. I can name a bunch off the top of my head. World War 2 online. Civ3. Pools of Radiance. Crimson Skies. Anarchy Online. etc.
So far the Moo series has been awesome, Just like the Civ series, however Civ3 has just a few too many bugs that just a little bit of beta testing would have caught. I wont buy Civ4 when it comes out because of this. If the developers read this, please, make sure the Game is released, at the very least, relatively bug free.

[Stormhound]

We're going to do our best...

[Zealot]

Originally posted by Stormhound
We're going to do our best...

Now that's something I never saw any Civ 3 designer to say here on Apolyton!

[Master Marcus]

Also, I repeat myself, I'm STILL amazed on how much info they share with the fans - much more than Firaxis ever did. The better the chances then for a more balanced game with fewer minor bugs, depending on how serious will be the beta testing.

[Deathwalker]

Please dont repeat Civ 3 and give us a Beta or plain lie about whats in the game

[Stormhound]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
Please dont repeat Civ 3 and give us a Beta or plain lie about whats in the game

So far as the latter point, did you dig back to find the thread where we announced certain features that were definitely being cut? We're trying to play straight with you folks...the fan community has been a crucial part of getting MOO3 done, and I suspect we'll be coming back to you on other projects as well (especially MOM2, if we get that project).

[TCO]

Originally posted by Stormhound
and I suspect we'll be coming back to you on other projects as well (especially MOM2, if we get that project).

Maybe you all could do civ4...

[ravagon]

Originally posted by GP


Maybe you all could do civ4...

Maybe you all could do civ3 ...

[TCO]

Somebody needs to!!



And Alan Emrich is the MAN! Love his essay on strat guides!

With him leading a project, we might even be able to get some better done tie-in documentation.

[Deathwalker]

I did not mean you lied, I meant Firaxis lied about Civ 3, multiplayer, scenarios and in box scenarios. All lies by a company that only cares about the bottom line. Not MOO3, I just dont want a repeat

[Stormhound]

I didn't think you had said we lied...I was just making sure you saw that thread so you wouldn't have reason to say so later.

[Calanor]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
I did not mean you lied, I meant Firaxis lied about Civ 3, multiplayer, scenarios and in box scenarios. All lies by a company that only cares about the bottom line. Not MOO3, I just dont want a repeat

Hmm, no offense, but if you have any inside information regarding exactly why those features were not included in the game, share them? My impression so far is that Infogrames are the ones to be flamed, not necessarily Firaxis, but I might have misunderstood the situation. I might indeed be living in a dreamworld, but frequently a developer team tend to consider their product their "baby" and want it to be as perfect as possible, while their publisher does not necessarily have to share that notion.

[TCO]

I would love to know more about the relationship of developers and publishers (and the situation w/in integrated houses).

For instance, I could see the opposite happening too. The publisher pays a set fee (advance on royalties) and expects a complete project at a set time. And the developer could have an incentive to not deliver entire thing or to ask for extra time (as project runs into problems.)

[CB2034]

I have read a lot about the game from the designers on this game and i believe that moo2 was the greatest game made at the time of its release. Im crossing my fingers for Moo3. If Infrocrack tries to pressure u guys into releasing an unfinished product and u need somebody to lean on the a little bit dont hesitate to ask

[Zealot]

Originally posted by CB2034
If Infrocrack tries to (...)

Actually, that's InfoGreed...