A naive wish

[Quintus_AP]

I'd rather have a partial patch or two than wait two months for a complete Code Patch...

[Stormhound]

Well, I suppose you could count the Data Patch as a partial, but we'll get the Code Patch when they want, not when we want.

[Quintus_AP]

Like this: We pay, They demand?

[Stormhound]

Something like that. But we can't make them code or QA any faster...and all things considered, we really don't want to.

[Grumbold]

I think they feel that an inadequate code patch will attract negative reactions. For those who don't distinguish between data and code this will be the second attemt to fix the things keeping them from playing. Many won't wait for a third.

[Harry Seldon]

Let them take as long as they want to fix it. Grumbold's right; I'll wait for this patch but if they f@@K it up this time you'll see my copy on ebay.

[Kahn]

Here's one

That they actually fix the DX bug!
(So far, no reference has been made in the patch progress thread, despite it being the number one complaint.)

[Grumbold]

Might the latest set of drivers released since MoO3 help anyway? Its been so long since I got the DX problem I forget what the cause was.

[Kahn]

Still a problem in the code...

I won’t bore you with all the gory details (If your interested, and Stencho has not deleted them in a fit of rage, you may read my quite lengthy number of posts detailing the problems, code dumps, and my many attempts to fix them on the IG forums) but suffice to say that many of us are still plagued with the DX problem despite having followed all the suggestions given in the forums, and then some. I have personally gone to the lengths of even testing out (187 to date) different combinations settings within the game, in DirectX, and in my video card’s drivers, all to little noticeable effect.

At the point just before my departure from IG, I was in the midst of constructing a matrix of all the system variables of the affected systems. As far as I got, most seem to be older systems (PII’s or PIII’s below 450 MHz) with video cards (both ATI and nVidia chipsets) containing 32 Megs or less of RAM. Only problem was there were a statistically significant number of computers that also exhibited the incurable form of the DX error that exceeded these specs. As a result, I have not been able to find any common factor linking all the affected systems.

P.S.: Drivers? One of the first things I checked! All are current.

[PaulNAdhe]

My PIII 500, 256 MB, Win2K system hits me every time the OS pops up a window, any window.

I disabled EVERY thing in the System Tray so wouldn't you know it the latest was the mouse battery warning.

[Vince278]

Sometimes I think its "A naive wish" to believe our opinions matter or that we'll see what we want.

[Grumbold]

Originally posted by Vince278
Sometimes I think its "A naive wish" to believe our opinions matter or that we'll see what we want.

Politics and philosophy belongs in the OT forum

[raghar]

Originally posted by Stormhound
Something like that. But we can't make them code or QA any faster...and all things considered, we really don't want to.

Actually given our experience with them we should demand patch right now. They would screw it right, but next patch would be better and more quckly done. Well we tried to wait and believed in more or less bug free software. We received more or less feature free software. Ie we should try the other way. Force from them unfinished patch, or force from them original code and repair it in public domain.

[Vince278]

I like that idea of putting it in the public domain (even if it does introduce more chaos into the system).

[Brazuca]

i don't see much changes with the data patch i continue to smash AI at impossible level, the ithkul could be more smart