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  • #16
    You can be happy that with this configuration against the Antarans, that you had ANY survivor............

    Missiles against them is a bit like water into an ocean...more or less useless

    Phasors aren't to bad against the Anti's, but not so usefull as well.

    The stellar converter is doing it's job OK........
    But you should use the other nice devices mentioned (IRRC) by vmxa1 in one of the thread's about best configuration. Like: Achilles targeting unit and so on........

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    • #17
      What types of ships with what design? Did you have a decent armor? HEF and Stabilizer?

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      • #18
        ? uh, I don't remember. I think I had phase III or IV shields and I think it was either Zortrium or Adamantium armor.
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        • #19
          HEF, if you can't remember, High energy focus.......

          And phase III shields: they are just good enough against the swarms of mosquitos in the summer

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          • #20
            This is what Loknar has on his ship which really an ANtran ship:

            Damper field - Quarters all damage, but eliminates shields (Watch for EMG)
            Xentronium armor - Very cool - 10x armor and structure, resistance to armor-piercing beams, +30 ground combat
            Death ray - Very cool - Good in general, unrivaled damage in EMG time frame
            Black hole generator - Implodes ships, but takes space
            Particle beam - Cool - Ignores shields, kicks butt with fighter garrison
            Reflection field - Pretty cool - Random chance for a beam weapon return-to-sender
            Spatial compressor - Sort of Cool - whacks incoming missiles, fighters, and stupid ships
            Quantum detonator - Not so cool - Decent protection against capture
            Neutronium bomb - Not so cool - Ground Bombardment

            This means you will some serious punch to kill it.
            Zort armor is not good enough to absort the damage.
            HEF boost the effect of beams and so does Interial Stabilizer. You can get by with out the rest of the boost, but you need these two as a min.
            Partical beams will ignore you shileds, so it does not matter which ones you have, but less than VII is weak.
            I like to get X-armor from Orion to be on equal footing.
            I would not go after them without disrupters, but I guess maybe phasors with all the mods coul dbe used.
            The reflection filed will tooss back damage onto you with most beam weapons. IIRC stellar conveter is one that reflection does not effect. Of course if you have gotten that far you can make titans with the best hardware and a bunch of autofire disrupters and whack them.

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            • #21
              Stellar converter is not affected by the reflection field.
              I am not sure, but I think the plasma gun isn't affected either. IIRC any weapon, which damages all 4 sites simultaniesly isn't affected.........But don't count on, I might be wrong.............

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              • #22
                Plasma guns are reflected (discovered this the hard way) but, given their large damage attenuation at range, they don't really hurt you too much in return as long as you keep your distance.

                My preferred combination is almost all defensive. Damper fields with auto-repair, heavy armour and the reinforced hull do wonders for survivability. Just make sure you take out the ship with the black hole generator pretty quickly.

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                • #23
                  One thing I like, when going against Anti's is a combination with Stasis field and time Warp.

                  You have the first strike, meaning you disable all, but one, take this one out with whatever and continue with the next one.

                  Also I like to capture them to get their nice armour,weapon and so on.

                  This way, it doesn't matter so much, how good your defence is, as you have only to fight one at the time.

                  It took me quite long to use damper-field and the other extras,as I always thought higher shield would be better...........

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                  • #24
                    There's no guarantee of getting X, Dampers or any of the other Antaran techs from Orion.

                    That's why I like building capture-specialized fleets and sending them after the little buggers when they appear.
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                    • #25
                      thanks for the help guys!

                      I finally got the Stellar converter. but haven't figured out how to blow up planets with it yet. When it gets to the bombard/invade/halt screen, there is no option for 'blow up planet'.

                      Is there a way to save more than one type of capital ship, or do I have to just overwrite my other designs?
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                      • #26
                        Overwrite.

                        I overwrite continually, as I upgrade designs, branch off into new directions, and refit. But then, I like designing ships.

                        Remember, you can always remake a design if you decide you need more; with technological advances, it'll probably be something you want to anyway as an upgrade.
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                        • #27
                          You can also make more than one design for the same class of ship, simply use the space of another class that you aren't building. I tend to only use 2-3 classes of ship in my games, which leaves plenty of slots for designs. The hardest part of my games is when my science starts to really roll in, and I have to upgrade my ship designs constantly. It's a lot of work. Small upgrades get a numeric .1 upgrade, while important advances get a whole version # increase. Without this system I'd have to look at the weapons and other systems on every ship to remember whether it was time to send it back to the shop for an upgrade.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Frankychan
                            thanks for the help guys!

                            I finally got the Stellar converter. but haven't figured out how to blow up planets with it yet. When it gets to the bombard/invade/halt screen, there is no option for 'blow up planet'.

                            Is there a way to save more than one type of capital ship, or do I have to just overwrite my other designs?
                            For blowing up planets:

                            When you are get the bombing screen, IIRC, you have to say first bomb and then you should get a new button, destroy. Might be wrong, I might gonna try tonight

                            You can have as many designs as you want, you just edit the current one and that's it.........

                            For getting the changes active, you still have to upgrade your ships.

                            Meaning, if you already have a fleet of 5 BS's, and you want to have some other ones, change the layout and DON'T upgrade the other ones.

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                            • #29
                              Hello fellow SMAC fanatic and welcome
                              "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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                              • #30
                                The video for the SC blowing up the planet is pretty fantastic. Very ominous and totally worth wasting a planet just to see.

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