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  • #1

    MOO 2 v GalCiv

    I hate these "suchandsuch" v "soandso" threads, but...

    I am looking for a new game. I have played Moo3, and despite intitially not enjoying the experience, I have now began to understand and enjoy the game.

    All the while I have been hearing how much better Gal Civ is. "Civ in Space" many have called it. Now Civ in space was always MOO2, and many people have also said GalCiv was how Moo3 should have been.

    Now my question is, how does Gal Civ compare to Moo2, being that they must be quite similar? Is Gal Civ the superior game?
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  • #2
    Moo2 is better IMHO.
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    • #3
      GalCiv is better. But also Moo2 is great
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      • #4
        Moo2:
        + you can design your own ships
        + tactical combat
        - really boring and annoying micromanagement

        Galciv:
        + smart AI opponents
        + fast paced gameplay
        + patches make the game better and better
        - no multiplayer

        I clearly prefer Galciv. Besides some bugs, that are quite likely to be fixed in the future, I see no real downfalls in the game. The lack of multiplayer however could be a reason to prefer something else but it definetly is the best singleplayer TBS.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AIL
          Moo2:
          + you can design your own ships
          + tactical combat
          - really boring and annoying micromanagement

          Galciv:
          + smart AI opponents
          + fast paced gameplay
          + patches make the game better and better
          - no multiplayer

          I clearly prefer Galciv. Besides some bugs, that are quite likely to be fixed in the future, I see no real downfalls in the game. The lack of multiplayer however could be a reason to prefer something else but it definetly is the best singleplayer TBS.
          GalCiv:
          - ship design
          - tactical combat
          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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          • #6
            GalCiv
            +- Very important random events
            +- No micromanagement
            + Good research tree
            - No mysterious techs (like antarian Xentropium armor in Moo2)
            + Complicated starbases
            - Can not be downloaded for a free from some abandonware sites.
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            • #7
              Moo2:

              + Still played after many years

              GalCiv:

              - More patches than SE IV (in less time even)
              - Players already jumping ship, talking wistfully about Moo3 of all things.

              Truce?
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              "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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              • #8
                where's vmx for this question??

                heh
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                • #9
                  I am what could be called a "casually hardcore" player. By which I mean that, while I do not devise elaborate plans of attack for a game, delve too deeply into the minutae, or immediately begin the process of ratcheting up the difficulty settings in a game upon purchasing it, I do play a lot of games and I am very educated in the TBS genre as a whole and Civ-style games in particular.

                  Given this, I can understand why some folks have put GalCiv aside lately. It is pretty simple, in a way. I put it aside as well, due to time constraints and a lack of "must play right now!" feel with it. I put MoO3 aside quicker, however.

                  I revisited both games recently, and while MoO3 (even post-patch) did nothing for me again, GalCiv has been great fun. In fact, I had one of my best sessions yet last night, and I got that old "one more turn" feel.

                  Now...MoO2 vs. GalCiv is a tough question, for many of the reasons listed above. In my very humble opinion, GalCiv would not replace MoO2 on the harddrive. MoO2 is one of the best games I've ever played, and I still play it regularly. However, GalCiv is a pretty darn good game and of every MoO2 wannabe out there, it is the best.

                  Mind you, my opinion may be invalid, given that I dislike Civ3 a lot.

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                  • #10
                    I played Moo2 longer and more fervently than GalCiv so it gets my vote.

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                    • #11
                      Well...

                      On the MOO2 side, I really think you are liking it more then it actual worth for the fact: It was a first experience, it was very uber, but time evolved.

                      The AI is good in GalCiv, but they must find a "balancing" thing to keep the game fun, I find it to be to fast to know who win. 90% of the game I know if I win after the initial spread, kinda pointless to go on after.

                      Don`t read me wrong: MOO2 was very nice for the time it was release. A lot of peoples love what they know, but it didn`t stand the road anymore then MOO1 would stand it compare to the 2. :P

                      They really should add tactical combat to GalCiv althought, and spread more differences that are easy to see and understand, the Arcean or the Torian could, for exemple, have much stronger starbases but 1 drawback on the offensive side...anyway, just a thought.

                      That been said, at the time, MOO2 was the best game out there...if players don`t keep playing GalCiv like they use to play MOO2 it is just that they are growing older and grumpier. I know teens that will not stop playing it...:P

                      Let face it, we are "has been"! :P

                      *giggles*

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                      • #12
                        Moo3
                        +Intresting hidden techs available in captured ships.


                        P.S it was a cool 3Mb. game "stars" with very good strategical sence. It also worth to be compared.
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                        • #13
                          Galciv:

                          +Torians!
                          -Some other people....

                          MOO3:

                          +That woman
                          -Not as good as galciv

                          hehe, get galciv. its much better

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                          • #14
                            Moo2 is better.
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                            • #15
                              It would be interesting to compare relative times spent playing Galciv to MOO III to impressions of each game.

                              Example:

                              Galciv- people who play it for 3 weeks think it's better
                              MOO III- people who play if for 3 months like it better.

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                              I'd like to rate the two, but I've only played Galciv
                              But the statistical analysis of the two groups might prove interesting...
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