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  • AI Above Intelligent Cheats Too Much

    Ok first of all im new in this forum, ill have to say i love Galactic Civilizations except for it's graphic, they'd need to work on those event pictures. I really love the AI but above intelligent they seem to get a lot more income than me even (i tought the AI couldn't cheat) if i get 50% in economy and the rest in social production as my starting attributes, i know how to exploit the AI weaknesses but that doesn't really matter cause after the colonization rush they seem to have the advantage on me, i mean they always end up having a thousand more millitary units than me. I'd appreciate any help, thanks or not.

  • #2
    Allow me to give the generic answers to your questions and concerns, as far as I've been able to determine from my usual forum skulking.

    First off, welcome to the forum.

    The AI doesn't cheat. It just gets smart. Go find all the other threads that say the AI cheats, and read those.

    The graphics are fine.

    There is a strategy forum here with some great information and links to great sites. You should check it out.

    Now, just a bit of near-random, yet still polite flaming (implied, since I'm a gentleman), and voila! Generic answers to a first post, done.

    -Yook

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    • #3
      At Genius and Incredible, the AI does get abilities that the human player doesn't. It gets an economic boost, and some extra racial abilities.

      Even at Intelligent, the AI gets free Stellar Cartography, which the human player does not get.

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      • #4
        The AI always knows where the yellow stars are, no matter what intelligence level.

        Also at the highest levels it does get an economic bonus. Not sure about the extra racial picks but a quick read on galciv.com will confirm.

        All in all that isn't cheating. Just bonuses. You don't want high levels to be a cakewalk to ya?

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        • #5
          If you are getting overwhelmed then I suggest you are playing above your difficulty level. Go down a notch.

          Umh, the AI needs those bonuses at higher levels because your smarter than them. (The AI has a heap of "if then" statements instead of a mind).

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          • #6
            Nah im doing well on Intelligent but i get some threat from the other civ during mid game cause i never invest much in millitary.

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            • #7
              In reviewing your first post it sounds like you simply need to build some military. Can't claim the AI cheats just because you ignore military and they don't. It's very easy to build up a military, just do it.

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              • #8
                On maso in 1.05, the ai gets 50% bonus to its econ, and probably to its PQ too. It had +30%Planet Quality in 1.04, which roughly means +30%everything.
                Clash of Civilization team member
                (a civ-like game whose goal is low micromanagement and good AI)
                web site http://clash.apolyton.net/frame/index.shtml and forum here on apolyton)

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                • #9
                  On Crippling/1.0.4 the AI was allowed to purchase Trade Goods even when he was well in debt. Now THAT is cheating.
                  Fight chicken abortion! Boycott eggs!

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                  • #10
                    I think they should put the option of ai cheating in their next version

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Aerain
                      I think they should put the option of ai cheating in their next version
                      Umm, the option is already there: it's called the difficulty selector.

                      Want an AI that doesn't cheat? Play at Intelligent or below. If you go above Intelligent, you get what you get.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Aerain
                        I think they should put the option of ai cheating in their next version
                        This comment prompted me to try a little experiment.

                        A little bit of fiddling with the files can permit you to cheat to your hearts content.

                        Step 1. Go into the tech files and create a new tech with no prerequisites and mimimum research cost. Set AI value to "0" so the AI thinks the tech is not worth researching.

                        Step 2. Go into the wonders file and create a new wonder with your new tech as the prerequisite. Copy "The Terraformer" and change the planet quality values to 900. Change cost to minimum of 50.

                        Step 3. Start new game. Research new tech which should take about 4 turns. Spend 730BC to buy the new wonder. See Earth planet quality increase to about 620, other colonies increase to about 300.

                        Umh, if that is enough of a cheat then I have no idea what is enough. Umh, way to excessive I say.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by peterfharris


                          This comment prompted me to try a little experiment.

                          A little bit of fiddling with the files can permit you to cheat to your hearts content.

                          Step 1. Go into the tech files and create a new tech with no prerequisites and mimimum research cost. Set AI value to "0" so the AI thinks the tech is not worth researching.

                          Step 2. Go into the wonders file and create a new wonder with your new tech as the prerequisite. Copy "The Terraformer" and change the planet quality values to 900. Change cost to minimum of 50.

                          Step 3. Start new game. Research new tech which should take about 4 turns. Spend 730BC to buy the new wonder. See Earth planet quality increase to about 620, other colonies increase to about 300.

                          Umh, if that is enough of a cheat then I have no idea what is enough. Umh, way to excessive I say.

                          Well,due!!
                          "To watch your eniemies die in glorious color and sourround sound is surely one of the greatest advantages of technology." - Eoin Colfer
                          "You get more flies with a dead body than with honey." - Joshua Wade

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