are video card prices going to stay this low?

[Quillan]

I think you're right, Solver. I seem to recall a nano-key in the upper deck of the plane that opens the rear quarters.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Before you talk to Lebedev, experiment with sticking LAMs on the corridor leading there. If you place it maliciously, the corridor will have red gobbets when you're done.

If you place it very carefully, there will be a frightened female ghost running around the plane, pausing every so often to berate you, before she starts running around like a headless chicken again.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by lord of the mark

Doc - if this game wont sustain political analysis, why bother with all this heavy duty story - might as well be playing a platformer like Half Life.

HL is not a platformer. And the story is Deus Ex is good enough to allow a few bumps.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DrSpike

HL is not a platformer.

You're getting technical on me now, Im supposed to be the obsessive without a sense of humor, right?

[Alinestra Covelia]

HL did have a few very annoying jumpy bits. My roommates would break stuff when playing that game on an old 333 MHz computer back in 1998.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


You're getting technical on me now, Im supposed to be the obsessive without a sense of humor, right?

It's important to get things right when you reply to me.

[El_Cid]

Originally posted by Solver
Lebedev in the locked closet?? I'm sure he was in a biggish personal suite in the back of the plane. And I can't remember it being locked.

Okay, so it was locked. Isn't there a key somewhere? I believe the second floor control room had a key, isn't it to Lebedev's quarters?

Well i thought Lotm was talking about that - he just had a locked door in the plane he couldn't access. locker/door - all the same

[lord of the mark]

ok, we can skip the politcs now, I'm with the NSF and the Majestic guy (not FEMA really after all, I knew thered be another plot twist) is after me. So I get back to Paul's and now I have another plot fork - A. I can run for it, or try to defend Paul so he can leave too. B. If I fight, I can win (presumably) or lose. Apparently if I lose Im captured instead of killed, and I can escape from prison, starting over.

So - is there a realistic chance to beat the majestic guys at the door? Is there a significant difference in plot depending on if I get imprisoned and escape, if I win the fight, or if I run and abandon Paul.

Im anxious to get to Hong Kong already, if only to see environments other than NYC.

[Quillan]

There is a chance of beating the guys at the door. However, in the long run, it really makes no difference. If you beat the guys at the door, you have to make it to the subway through the patrols on the street. If you do that, you find Gunther and a horde of foes (including bots) at the other end. You'll be given the option of surrendering or fighting. If you fight, you probably won't beat them all, and either result winds up with you in the cell, the only difference being your health status.

If you do manage to beat them all (it has happened before) you pretty much broke the game, as nothing happens from that point, so you'd need to reload and "lose".

There is only one real difference between those various choices, and I'm going to spoiler that one in case you don't really want to know:

Spoiler:

If you run out the window, Paul dies, and when you break out of jail you'll be given a mission to recover some data from his body. If you stay and fight, Paul will still be alive, and you'll still have to recover some data from him once you break out of jail. The only real difference is whether he lives or dies, and thus whether he continues to play a role later in the game.

[Alinestra Covelia]

I beat them all except Gunther, who cannot be killed at that point. You can, however, trap him in a corner using crates and barrels.

The end bit near the top of the Castle Clinton subway is really interesting. The designers put an invisible wall around the level, so if you tried to run out of the ambush, you'd merely hit the wall and then presumably get killed real quick.

But there is a way out of the wall. If you push a cardboard box over it, you can climb over the wall and then run around the level.

Castle Clinton is completely empty, with even the kiosk removed. Apart from yourself and Gunther, the only thing living on the level is a cat in Castle Clinton.

Gunther is not constrained by the invisible wall and if you circle back round to him, he will attack you and eventually kill you. This is the only known way out of the level.

[DrSpike]

LotM: stop overanalysing and play! You can always save and try out other paths later.

[Unimatrix11]

AC, where do you have this from ? You are such a geek ! And that with a game i love, too ! I know You probably hear this a quite often, but You dont want to possibly, by any chance, marry me, right away, without asking any further questions ?

[Alinestra Covelia]

Haha, my guy friends say the same thing. I tell them I play XBox, Wii, and PC games and they're like "I can be married on Wednesday if that's good for you"

It all comes from having a pushy dad who really wanted a son, I guess. By the time my brother got old enough to start taking part, I was already into stuff like camping and fishing and martial arts. Played my first computer games on an old Apple IIc when I was five.

This only increased when I got to college and ended up in a house otherwise full of lads.

Though I admit I've played more than my fair share of The Sims and Bubble Bopple too. The best game that spans both genders is CivII, and I worked with Bing a lot on that.

Bing's the friend who testruns games for me. If he likes it, he usually slings me a copy and I play it. He keeps me around to have a multiplayer foil.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DrSpike
LotM: stop overanalysing and play! You can always save and try out other paths later.

yeah. play this game through two or three times. I can get to, say, Rome Total War in 2010 and to Bioshock in say, 2012.

[Unimatrix11]

Bubble Bobble ! For a party in the students home i once lived in, someone got an actual arcade machine of it. I was freaking out, since it was 2004 or something and i hadnt seen the game since 198x - i still have the soundtrack in my ear.