WW2 Grand Strategy Games

[Jon Miller]

Anyone have any experienc with this one?

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/330/details/Gary.Grigsby's.World.at.War:.A.World.Divided

JM

[Harovan]

Can't help you with that, but it looks a little simplistic. If you want a great WW2 Grand Strategy game, why not just play HoI2?

[Jon Miller]

HOI is a bit bigger, I agree, I was looking for something that was wargamish (on the level that you would play on a board game). It seems like the games there are on that level.

JM

[snoopy369]

How about Risk?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by snoopy369
How about Risk?

To be honest, Risk sucks.

Axis and Allies is about the maximum dependency on dice rolling for me.

JM

[Jon Miller]

These are the board wargames I like:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/243

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/21878

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/1563

And others of that those types.

JM

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


To be honest, Risk sucks.

Axis and Allies is about the maximum dependency on dice rolling for me.

JM

Properly played, Risk has very little dependency on dice rolling.

[Kuciwalker]

Risk has basically no [non-trivial] strategy to it.

[snoopy369]

Strategy != complexity.

[Wiglaf]

!= = annoying.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Strategy != complexity.

Did I say they were?

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
!= = annoying.

Sorry.

Strategy <> Complexity.

Is better?

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Did I say they were?

If you define strategy as complexity, you're right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsensical, as Risk clearly has (non-trivial) strategy, unless you define 'trivial' so loosely as to encompass everything.

Risk, for example, has about as much strategy as Chess.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by snoopy369
If you define strategy as complexity, you're right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsensical, as Risk clearly has (non-trivial) strategy, unless you define 'trivial' so loosely as to encompass everything.

It takes all of 15 minutes to learn everything necessary to play Risk well. At most.

Risk, for example, has about as much strategy as Chess.

[snoopy369]

Again, strategy does not mean complexity. Go takes about 15 minutes to learn, but that does not mean you can easily win it

(I'm leaving off the 'well' part, because that's obviously incorrect... I know plenty of people who don't know its strategy after months of learning it